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Understanding 9/11Grateful Dead Live at The Zenith on 1990-10-28
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- Publication date
- 1990-10-28 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Live concert
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- GratefulDead
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- Grateful Dead
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- DeadLists Project
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- 1.3G
Touch Of Gray, Walkin' Blues, Candyman, Box Of Rain, Mexicali Blues, Maggie's Farm, Althea, Cassidy, Tennessee Jed, Stander on the Mountain Victim Or The Crime, Eyes Of The World-> Estimated Prophet-> Uncle John's Band-> Drums-> Jam-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat-> Sugar Magnolia, E: Knockin' On Heaven's Door
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SBD> DATx3; Conversion: Sony M-1 > Midiman Optical > SPDIF SB Platinum > CoolEdit WAV > CDWav WAV > SHN (mkw); Shns Produced by JamPhan
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- 2004-04-03 13:03:29
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- gd90-10-28.sbd.jamphan.3264.sbeok.shnf
- Location
- Paris, FR
- Numeric_id
- 11864
- Source
- SBD> DATx3
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- sound
- Venue
- The Zenith
- Year
- 1990
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Reviewer:
AugustEast76
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April 25, 2018
Subject: Moooo
Subject: Moooo
It's gotta be a decade since I've listen to 90's Dead. Not a whole lotta good shows to pick from. However....this is truly an exception. Love the bovine
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samples in drums.
The 80's are by far my fav decade and I've been listening to that decade for about a decade now. This is the first show w/o Brent Mydland that I've listened to in a LONG ASS time. I completely forgot about Welnick. Wait is this Hornsby? Or is it them together? Odd time for The Dead, but fantastic show no doubt. Even the drums and space. Mooooo
The 80's are by far my fav decade and I've been listening to that decade for about a decade now. This is the first show w/o Brent Mydland that I've listened to in a LONG ASS time. I completely forgot about Welnick. Wait is this Hornsby? Or is it them together? Odd time for The Dead, but fantastic show no doubt. Even the drums and space. Mooooo
Reviewer:
sailorsaint71
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May 24, 2013
Subject: stand r on the mtn
Subject: stand r on the mtn
i love that hornsby song and this board sounds really great i wanted to go to europe but i was 19 at the time and could not pull it off but the tapes were
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great.i give it a high rating for sound quality and my buddy said the band was really enjoying themselves. give it a listen
Reviewer:
E.R.C. Iceman!
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May 12, 2011
Subject: TIGHT SHOW-GREAT BOARD!
Subject: TIGHT SHOW-GREAT BOARD!
BAND IS ON. NOTABLE HORNSBY-WELNICK WORK. GREAT SOUNDBOARD!!!!
Reviewer:
Schrodes66
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October 29, 2010
Subject: Had to Go
Subject: Had to Go
When I heard the boys were going to Europe I knew I had to be there. None of my friends were able to make the trek so I went alone and made new friends.
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After the MSG run I was looking for more of those extended pre-drum jams which didn't happen. What we did get(at least in Paris) was some really tight, well executed show. I was right in front of Jerry the second night and the dynamic and excitement between him and Bruce was palpable. My favorite version of Victim, the meltdown ending is as psychedelic as anything from the early 70's. There are great shows and dogs all throughout their 3 decades. Anyone who gets down on the 80's or 90's is just being elitist or not really listening. There are plenty of blah shows from 78 too. As far as bashing the French well, people are people and I don't see where that sort of talk has a place in this forum. BTW, I went on to London which was fun but the band energy was definitely not as high.
Reviewer:
Phlesh Wound
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October 29, 2010
Subject: Aint no time to hate
Subject: Aint no time to hate
well said clyde. great victim frogs.
Check out furthur!
The bus come by and I got on, that's where it all began..................
And FURTHUR and FURTHUR ... the bus rolls on, next stop is never ever land!
Check out furthur!
The bus come by and I got on, that's where it all began..................
And FURTHUR and FURTHUR ... the bus rolls on, next stop is never ever land!
Reviewer:
ccclyde
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December 9, 2008
Subject: I love France
Subject: I love France
After spending months there over the years, I must say France is one of the most amazing places on earth. It offers one everything in beautiful way.
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Screw close-mindedness. You're just embarrasing yourself.
Reviewer:
REBLOCHON
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April 30, 2008
Subject: imposible n'est pas français
Subject: imposible n'est pas français
To the guy who writes that the french don't deserve such a good concert...
It is always a suprise to know thaht somme of the deadheads can be rightwing ... and racist (in this case)
the best poet of the world is french ARTHUR RIMBAUD
AND one of JERRY DJANGO hero also
It is always a suprise to know thaht somme of the deadheads can be rightwing ... and racist (in this case)
the best poet of the world is french ARTHUR RIMBAUD
AND one of JERRY DJANGO hero also
Reviewer:
dr. flashback
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December 21, 2006
Subject: Europe 90!!
Subject: Europe 90!!
It's hard to say which run is stronger in 1990, the MSG run in September, or this following run through Europe in October.
With all due respect to Brent, ... it's a testament to how much spirit the Dead had to manage to pull together so soon after the tragic loss and deliver what is possibly some of the best runs of their later period.
It's obvious that the infusion of Hornsby into the band inspired Jerry to step up to the plate again and take on the Lion's mantle of leading the band - at least for a while. And it's also obvious that to undertake a major Europe tour so soon after a personnel transition speaks volumes about how much confidence the band had in their ability to regroup and perform high quality shows.
And nowhere is this more true than this show. Definitely one of the best shows from the tour. The first set really gets going with a slow, slippery Candyman - fine vocals from Jerry here, as well as everyone else. Ditto the Box of Rain - who says Phil can't sing? A powerful version of a crowd favorite gets the crowd fired up. Then - they light the fuse with Maggie's Farm. This song is right up Bruce's alley, and he and Jerry build the song to a peak of energy that will make you get up and dance. Listen to Vince's great Dylan impression!!!
And while you may have reservations about the Dead doing a Hornsby song, "Stander" is SOOO Garcia/Hunter style that it fits in seamlessly here, not to mention it smokes! All in all, a great setlist for Set One. I'm happy.
Victim kicks off with some mind-warping midi effects, a sign that this set will be of a different dimension entirely. Surprise - a reverse Estimated>Eyes, with Jerry peeling off lines right and left. The Bar>Space segment is, well, pretty weird, even for this period. Everything from going through black holes, to Amazon jungle drums to bullfrogs croaking. Really a treat for the senses. Save a nug, or two for this part!!
The Other One is everything it should be - Jerry riding a blazing comet of fury and sound, not to mention the drummer's work here. The Second Set just keep getting better, what can I say. Then they manage to come back for a spine-chilling Heaven's Door, with Garcia just bringing tears to your eyes his singing is so strong.
Not a weak moment in this show friends! A must have for this tour, and for 1990 as well.
cheers,
Dr. Flashback :-)
With all due respect to Brent, ... it's a testament to how much spirit the Dead had to manage to pull together so soon after the tragic loss and deliver what is possibly some of the best runs of their later period.
It's obvious that the infusion of Hornsby into the band inspired Jerry to step up to the plate again and take on the Lion's mantle of leading the band - at least for a while. And it's also obvious that to undertake a major Europe tour so soon after a personnel transition speaks volumes about how much confidence the band had in their ability to regroup and perform high quality shows.
And nowhere is this more true than this show. Definitely one of the best shows from the tour. The first set really gets going with a slow, slippery Candyman - fine vocals from Jerry here, as well as everyone else. Ditto the Box of Rain - who says Phil can't sing? A powerful version of a crowd favorite gets the crowd fired up. Then - they light the fuse with Maggie's Farm. This song is right up Bruce's alley, and he and Jerry build the song to a peak of energy that will make you get up and dance. Listen to Vince's great Dylan impression!!!
And while you may have reservations about the Dead doing a Hornsby song, "Stander" is SOOO Garcia/Hunter style that it fits in seamlessly here, not to mention it smokes! All in all, a great setlist for Set One. I'm happy.
Victim kicks off with some mind-warping midi effects, a sign that this set will be of a different dimension entirely. Surprise - a reverse Estimated>Eyes, with Jerry peeling off lines right and left. The Bar>Space segment is, well, pretty weird, even for this period. Everything from going through black holes, to Amazon jungle drums to bullfrogs croaking. Really a treat for the senses. Save a nug, or two for this part!!
The Other One is everything it should be - Jerry riding a blazing comet of fury and sound, not to mention the drummer's work here. The Second Set just keep getting better, what can I say. Then they manage to come back for a spine-chilling Heaven's Door, with Garcia just bringing tears to your eyes his singing is so strong.
Not a weak moment in this show friends! A must have for this tour, and for 1990 as well.
cheers,
Dr. Flashback :-)
Reviewer:
Trannyman
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November 15, 2006
Subject: One of the best
Subject: One of the best
Top couple of shows from Europe 90.
Regarding the Victim- knarly is the word.
Regarding the show- If your thing is to have Phil Pharting in your Phace ... for an entire show, this one will do the trick.
Regarding the Victim- knarly is the word.
Regarding the show- If your thing is to have Phil Pharting in your Phace ... for an entire show, this one will do the trick.
Reviewer:
Pittsburgh77
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January 17, 2006
Subject: Just another era of GRATEness.......
Subject: Just another era of GRATEness.......
I always shied away from 90's Dead-figured just some old guys hangin around for the fame and "the girls in the short skirts" and tryin to make some more
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$$$ and they wouldn't be half the band they once were. First time ever hearing "Stander" for me, and thats magical just as shows @ The Matrix with Garrceeah & His Friends were in '68. A great band is a GRATE band at any age especially when not always playing 'songs' as most of us know them to be--songs that aren't always the same, that go in a zillion directions at once and end up back where they started, twenty minutes or so later. SynCHRONICity.....
Never knew the ?accordian? and the Dead went together so well...Encore of 'Knockin' is just unreal. Fabulous but kinda sad when you look at and hear the big picture.
France doesn't deserve this????? Are you kidding? The WORLD deserves and NEEDS this and maybe you saw some shows but i'm not sure you heard em.....
Anyway, we have 4 decades of Dead material at our 'crazy finger'tips thanks to Archive so load up on your favs but check it all out-you may be happy you did and you may just find a new fav in there along the way!!!!
Never knew the ?accordian? and the Dead went together so well...Encore of 'Knockin' is just unreal. Fabulous but kinda sad when you look at and hear the big picture.
France doesn't deserve this????? Are you kidding? The WORLD deserves and NEEDS this and maybe you saw some shows but i'm not sure you heard em.....
Anyway, we have 4 decades of Dead material at our 'crazy finger'tips thanks to Archive so load up on your favs but check it all out-you may be happy you did and you may just find a new fav in there along the way!!!!
Reviewer:
DisguisedAsASquirrel
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November 17, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Stander on the Mountain
Subject: Stander on the Mountain
These shows in the Fall of 1990 are so refreshing. Bruce's piano, the novel song selections, aggressive playing by all and outstanding sound quality make
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them must haves.
This show in particular is a great one for the uninitiated who need a good entre into 90's Dead. The playing is tight, highlighting all that shines in the songs as well as the idosyncracies of the fellas without venturing too far from the shore. Jerry's just right, Bobby's, well Bobby, Phil is blowing up Godzilla's scrotum with every measure, Vinny's just right, the duo is hammering in time and Bruce cleans up the act, putting some polish on the boys.
I love Europe 90 first sets, so for moi the first set rocks balls after Touch and Walkin'. They make up for their somewhat weak first few laps with seven, count 'em nine tunes after that.
On the whole the 2nd set is pretty tame, though the scary Victim is a nice touch, lilting Eyes, decent Estimated...5 in musicianship, 5 in sound, 3.5 for 2nd set's somewhat straightforward inspiration.
This show in particular is a great one for the uninitiated who need a good entre into 90's Dead. The playing is tight, highlighting all that shines in the songs as well as the idosyncracies of the fellas without venturing too far from the shore. Jerry's just right, Bobby's, well Bobby, Phil is blowing up Godzilla's scrotum with every measure, Vinny's just right, the duo is hammering in time and Bruce cleans up the act, putting some polish on the boys.
I love Europe 90 first sets, so for moi the first set rocks balls after Touch and Walkin'. They make up for their somewhat weak first few laps with seven, count 'em nine tunes after that.
On the whole the 2nd set is pretty tame, though the scary Victim is a nice touch, lilting Eyes, decent Estimated...5 in musicianship, 5 in sound, 3.5 for 2nd set's somewhat straightforward inspiration.
Reviewer:
dmilks
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November 17, 2005 (edited)
Subject: 10-28-90
Subject: 10-28-90
Good Stander, pretty average tour.
Reviewer:
Alain L
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November 6, 2005
Subject: Mon dernier concert
Subject: Mon dernier concert
Mon dernier concert du Dead. Et quel concert ! Excellent ! Et quelle surprise ! Il y avait des annÃÂées que je n'ÃÂécoutais plus le Dead,
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et il ÃÂétait encore bien vivant pour ces 2 concerts ÃÂàParis.
La qualitÃÂé de l'enregistrement est trÃÂès bonne et trÃÂès agrÃÂéable.
La qualitÃÂé de l'enregistrement est trÃÂès bonne et trÃÂès agrÃÂéable.
Reviewer:
JaMmM On
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September 23, 2005
Subject: France doesn't deserve this!!!!!!
Subject: France doesn't deserve this!!!!!!
what are you talking about man???????? you stopped going to shows after the mid 80's? 87-spring 90 tour was on fire... especially fall of 89.... jerry's
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vocals aren't that bad here... he sounded worse in 85 with the creaky vocals due to the drug abuse.... you'll always find a good show here and there... i agree the quantity isn't there in the 90's like it was in the 70's and 80's... but still man... get out of the 70's... i realize that that's prime dead, and i agree.... nothing beats late 73-74... or 76-78... but still there's alot of great stuff to be discovered in the late 80's-90... just give it a shot...
Reviewer:
lobster12
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May 3, 2005 (edited)
Subject: NICE
Subject: NICE
Love both nights in paris. UJB is a bit of a mess but the show itself is very good
Reviewer:
ewerb
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March 26, 2005
Subject: Way Weak - More than a touch of grey
Subject: Way Weak - More than a touch of grey
Muddy vocals, talk thru lyrics instead of singing, uninspired jams, i mean after downloading 1.3 Gb, labelling and converting in to apple lossless, i had
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to delete the whole show because it was too sad to listen to the loss of jerry's voice and the ghost of the band they were -- why i stopped going to shows in the mid 80's
Look elsewhere for a good live show - despite the song list
at least download a sample cut to see what i mean -- really...
Look elsewhere for a good live show - despite the song list
at least download a sample cut to see what i mean -- really...
Reviewer:
Tito&Smokey
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March 24, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Good One
Subject: Good One
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To bad it had to be in France with all the pussy frogs.
How come fireworks are banned in France?
because if you lit one off,the whole country would surrender
How come fireworks are banned in France?
because if you lit one off,the whole country would surrender
Reviewer:
capn doubledose
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March 10, 2005
Subject: Crystal clear
Subject: Crystal clear
Sound quality is really nice + check out the touch, walkin, one of the best candymans ever. Phil getting cute with the frogs. Nice Althea, cassidy long
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first set... Whole set II rocks. This is one of the last great shows.
Reviewer:
dirty jev-o
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October 31, 2004 (edited)
Subject: sick
Subject: sick
when the cows start mooing during space...hmmmm.....this is the only time phil used that effect on victim......10 22 90 also has a nice weird victim....i
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am a real firm believer that the dead could have had Liberace on keys and they still would have sounded like the dead......but i suppose bruce came around at a time when he was needed {in the wake of mydland's death}.........this show is a real standout to me, and i usually stick to 68-71 dead.......sound quality is really nice
Reviewer:
Pierluigi
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September 6, 2004 (edited)
Subject: Gilbo
Subject: Gilbo
In memory of a our great friend.
They play for you............Gilberto
They play for you............Gilberto
Reviewer:
deadtothecore
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August 28, 2004
Subject: Bruce!!!!
Subject: Bruce!!!!
While Deadworld was getting over the loss of Brent, Bruce did a fantastic job of helping out the music. We were a hurting bunch. Brent's death was devastating.
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I always thought this run should have gotten more pub, its really good, but a completely different sound that 4 months prior. While the songs are very well played, they have that West Coast mellowness (if that's a word) to them.
The Stander on the Mountain is epic!
Bruce can really be heard in this Europe '90 run. Stander, Valley Road??WTF?? Awesome!!!!!
Great quality here. I had 2nd gen analog's of this entire run. But these are much better.
Gotta Love the Archive.
The Stander on the Mountain is epic!
Bruce can really be heard in this Europe '90 run. Stander, Valley Road??WTF?? Awesome!!!!!
Great quality here. I had 2nd gen analog's of this entire run. But these are much better.
Gotta Love the Archive.
Reviewer:
johnnyg3
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July 29, 2004
Subject: Stander
Subject: Stander
WOW!!!!! I wish this would have been in the rotation, I might have gotten to hear it live. This is a fantastic concert. This copy is even better. Being
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a VAhead, Bruce was always a favorite, and he added a great sound to the band whenever he sat in. Baldwin and Accordion were always treats...
Reviewer:
Teaklee
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May 18, 2004
Subject: SICK
Subject: SICK
I loved this version of Stander on the Mountian...By far the best Dead version. Overall this show smoked...Phil thumps all over this show. Check out the
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sick effects during the Victim. There was an evil "roar" sound throughout this version. The jam out of Victim is epic...the band then cascades into a beautiful and joyful Eyes. One extreme to another. Sound quality remarkably crisp.
Reviewer:
gainzer
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April 12, 2004
Subject: i love "The Other One"
Subject: i love "The Other One"
this other one smokes!
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