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Minglewood Blues-> Sugaree-> El Paso, Jack A Roe-> Little Red Rooster, Tennessee Jed, It's All Over Now, Bird Song-> Women Are Smarter Shakedown Street-> Lost Sailor-> Saint Of Circumstance-> Drums-> Spanish Jam*-> Uncle John's Band-> Not Fade Away-> Wharf Rat-> Around & Around-> One More Saturday Night, E: It's All Over Now Baby Blue
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Bertha Remaster of unknown Soundboard source
(*)SBD>>???>>CDA>>WAV(EAC)>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN
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Reviewer:
superbengoshi
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April 17, 2022
Subject: 40 Years Ago Today
Subject: 40 Years Ago Today
It's hard to believe it's been 40 years since I saw this show. My 7th show on the Spring 1982 tour. This one and April 6th at the Spectrum were the most
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memorable. This show is excellent from beginning to end, but what sets it apart from other shows is the 45 minutes of music from the end of Space --> UJB through the Baby Blue encore. Jerry's voice is at its strongest and sweetest (since 1977) this tour, and really, never to be again. Plus, the way the songs, post-drums are joined together, with Jerry leading the rhythm section, is refreshingly unique for this era. If you know of a better vocal performance by Jerry than the way he sings this Baby Blue, well, I'd like to hear it. This show is in heavy rotation for me and is in my top 5 shows seen, along with 10/31/1979, 8/29/1980, 9/2/1980, 5/17/1981 and 6/28/1985. I know, that makes 6 shows. If you haven't listened to this show, or haven't listened to it in a while, what are you waiting for?
Reviewer:
c-freedom
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April 18, 2020 (edited)
Subject: Free don't come easy, FREE don't come for Free
Subject: Free don't come easy, FREE don't come for Free
The crowd centered Minglewood gives a taste of up tempo
East Coast.
As already mentioned wait for the Sounboard to kick in 3 minutes into Sugaree.
Lest ... we overlook it was Minglewood>Sugaree>El Paso to open.
Good tune selection for entire 1st set.
Brent drops a massive jam toward the later part of Shakedown
Nothing wrong with Sailor>Saint (just a preference thing)
interesting how a shows street cred goes up and down over time with the flow of the reviewers.
I got no issue with 5 stars on this it is well jammed nd both Weir and especially Garcia are smooth on the vocals.
Also gotta say that the last batch of Brent shows that I listened to was in 1981 and I really can hear the increasing subtlety , color or tone here. I find myself focused on the keys.
Jerry just keeps it all moving furthur..
Yeah, that is Spanish Jam really laid back and right into drums.
Entire 2nd Set is what I like to call the EXPRESS TRAIN.
No down time between songs
That might be the one thing
we had in the 80's that not even
the legendary 70's shows of yore can claim.
Nothing like being able to dance thru an entire set!
Drums is just O.K (they don't pound the big ones)
Cool electronica at times to flip a tripping fool.
Space starts with Jerry noodling
off the electronics
then Brent exploring with Garcia
oh UJB at 5:30 of space but so subtle
(has a similar feel to the Wheel)
Amazing they didn't pull that out of space more often.
It is a gentle strength kinda tune
High as kite---indeed.
East Coast.
As already mentioned wait for the Sounboard to kick in 3 minutes into Sugaree.
Lest ... we overlook it was Minglewood>Sugaree>El Paso to open.
Good tune selection for entire 1st set.
Brent drops a massive jam toward the later part of Shakedown
Nothing wrong with Sailor>Saint (just a preference thing)
interesting how a shows street cred goes up and down over time with the flow of the reviewers.
I got no issue with 5 stars on this it is well jammed nd both Weir and especially Garcia are smooth on the vocals.
Also gotta say that the last batch of Brent shows that I listened to was in 1981 and I really can hear the increasing subtlety , color or tone here. I find myself focused on the keys.
Jerry just keeps it all moving furthur..
Yeah, that is Spanish Jam really laid back and right into drums.
Entire 2nd Set is what I like to call the EXPRESS TRAIN.
No down time between songs
That might be the one thing
we had in the 80's that not even
the legendary 70's shows of yore can claim.
Nothing like being able to dance thru an entire set!
Drums is just O.K (they don't pound the big ones)
Cool electronica at times to flip a tripping fool.
Space starts with Jerry noodling
off the electronics
then Brent exploring with Garcia
oh UJB at 5:30 of space but so subtle
(has a similar feel to the Wheel)
Amazing they didn't pull that out of space more often.
It is a gentle strength kinda tune
High as kite---indeed.
Reviewer:
Dark Star 101
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January 2, 2020
Subject: Security
Subject: Security
As a reviewer notes below, Hartford had some of the worst security, maybe not Meadowlands bad, but a hassle nonetheless. In any case, the result of that
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edge was the East Coast Energy that could take you really high, and this show is no exception. Great to hear again!
Reviewer:
Niass200
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July 1, 2016
Subject: Very Good
Subject: Very Good
Like this, once the SBD kicks in. Its subsides my thoughts 82 was off, when it wasn't, but the sound was changing fast, of the overall band. never stop,
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as they say.
Reviewer:
kbmill
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January 20, 2016
Subject: bread crumb
Subject: bread crumb
I do love Jack-A-Roe. Hard to believe it wasn't played until 1977. It was an on and off number. This is one of only two 1982 versions and extraordinarily
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rare for the next few years.
Reviewer:
DJJazzZD
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October 5, 2015 (edited)
Subject: My favorite Baby Blue
Subject: My favorite Baby Blue
Solid show all around. The Baby Blue is emotionally delivered played with authority and sweetly sung.
Reviewer:
GermanShepherd
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August 26, 2014 (edited)
Subject: Starts off as AUD, but then changes to SBD
Subject: Starts off as AUD, but then changes to SBD
It seems this is a good-quality FOB aud recording, but not necessarily a soundboard, until about 3:00 minutes into Sugaree. Then it turns into the SBD.
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We're all spoiled by Charlie Miller's uploads, and he tends to note all the AUD patches. The Around and Around track actually includes One More Saturday Night. The OMSN track is just crowd noise, FYI. I love the fact they turned to play to the audience sitting behind the stage. Truly, a Heart of Gold band.
Reviewer:
Evan S. Hunt
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April 19, 2010
Subject: Duty
Subject: Duty
When I saw this listing as a Bertha Remaster since I have heard over 100 Bertha Remasters I felt it my duty to hear this one and give a report.
It's a ... really good show and a really good recording spruced up by the Bertha-thizing. All the songs are well-played and Jerry and Bobby sing good, too.
The Sugaree is pretty nice. Towards the end Jerry goes into his fanning mode and then continues on with the fanning longer than usual. It sounds sort of half-hearted at first, but eventually you recognize that Jerry is playing this way for effect.
The Bobby Womack song All Over Now covered by the Rolling Stones is a song the GD did from their stint as the Warlocks in Palo Alto. The Dead loosely patterned themselves after the 1965 Stones and this was part of their fledgling repertoire. This version is relaxed and easy to entreat ~ perfect for lounging around on a Sunday afternoon.
Have to say that the recording from out of the Hartford CC is special for the clear vocals. This must have been a decent room for acoustics. Previous Reviewers have noted that the Dead played this venue well.
What proceeds is an elegant Bird Song highlighted by Jerry's gentle gnat notes. This is a song the band loved performing. Have the GD ever played a bad version of this song?
And what can anyone say about the African based Man Smart Woman Smarter? A pedestrian tune ala Aiko that sort of salves and lubricates and makes your body sway. Like Aiko this song was a semi AM radio hit in the mid 60's. It's a pleasant song. If I had a say in it, I would change it to "women are wiser" not smarter. Hence: Man Smart Women Wise.
Shakedown Sailor Saint = all choice stuff. Great jams, highbrow playing. It's all there just the way you like it.
The rest of the second set is just as good. All Good stuff, competently dispatched.
It's a ... really good show and a really good recording spruced up by the Bertha-thizing. All the songs are well-played and Jerry and Bobby sing good, too.
The Sugaree is pretty nice. Towards the end Jerry goes into his fanning mode and then continues on with the fanning longer than usual. It sounds sort of half-hearted at first, but eventually you recognize that Jerry is playing this way for effect.
The Bobby Womack song All Over Now covered by the Rolling Stones is a song the GD did from their stint as the Warlocks in Palo Alto. The Dead loosely patterned themselves after the 1965 Stones and this was part of their fledgling repertoire. This version is relaxed and easy to entreat ~ perfect for lounging around on a Sunday afternoon.
Have to say that the recording from out of the Hartford CC is special for the clear vocals. This must have been a decent room for acoustics. Previous Reviewers have noted that the Dead played this venue well.
What proceeds is an elegant Bird Song highlighted by Jerry's gentle gnat notes. This is a song the band loved performing. Have the GD ever played a bad version of this song?
And what can anyone say about the African based Man Smart Woman Smarter? A pedestrian tune ala Aiko that sort of salves and lubricates and makes your body sway. Like Aiko this song was a semi AM radio hit in the mid 60's. It's a pleasant song. If I had a say in it, I would change it to "women are wiser" not smarter. Hence: Man Smart Women Wise.
Shakedown Sailor Saint = all choice stuff. Great jams, highbrow playing. It's all there just the way you like it.
The rest of the second set is just as good. All Good stuff, competently dispatched.
Reviewer:
Mr. Charlie - Lambertville
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December 2, 2007
Subject: This is not a board!!!
Subject: This is not a board!!!
Cuh-Mon archive. I love you guys but this is not a board!! Make it downloadable.
Reviewer:
TheGreyDecay
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July 13, 2007
Subject: a bit echo-y...
Subject: a bit echo-y...
for a SBD. Not quite as crisp as some other shows. The setlist is a bit mixed for me (but that's totally personal preference). Otherwise the guys seem
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pretty tight, just not my top choice overall.
Reviewer:
Rich D
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April 17, 2007
Subject: One of 82' Best!
Subject: One of 82' Best!
I would disagree with anyone who says this show is average & I was not even at this show - my first was the next night. The second set is a 5+ for
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the many reasons already stated including the shakedown, the awsome spanish jam w/out Jerry, and the post drum segment.
Although I am not a minglewood fan, the set opener starts off with a great grove and rest of set doesen't look back.
This board is solid and would give it a 5- rating. As mentioned on other post, I think these three shows (4/17, 4/18, and 4/19) are the best in 82 - all good soundboards too.
Thank you Archive!
Although I am not a minglewood fan, the set opener starts off with a great grove and rest of set doesen't look back.
This board is solid and would give it a 5- rating. As mentioned on other post, I think these three shows (4/17, 4/18, and 4/19) are the best in 82 - all good soundboards too.
Thank you Archive!
Reviewer:
piggriver
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March 16, 2007
Subject: C'mon Ron, it's Saturday Night, let's get higher than a KITE!!
Subject: C'mon Ron, it's Saturday Night, let's get higher than a KITE!!
OH YEAH!! Glad to have this one again!! Killer Shakedown on through... I believe I read somewhere that this was the first show for seats behind stage in
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an arena, thus the "This is for all the people..." from Jer. Thanks to those that were there and commented that the boys actually turned around and played to those "watching the back of our heads". Hilarious!! Whole second sets rips it up, everything stands out. Always LOVED this one. GREAT Baby Blue!
Reviewer:
DTSECOFR21
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June 10, 2006
Subject: I sat front row for this one
Subject: I sat front row for this one
Sound Quality 4.0 ; Show Quality 4.5. Although I saw the Dead several times up close at GA concerts, I actually had a ticket for a front row center seat.
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At the time I was lucky enough to have a friend whose mom worked for the HCC box office and she punched out the first 4 tickets for this show and gave them to her son. The highlight of this show was Baby Blue when the band actually played to the folks behind the stage...thats the only time I've ever seen that. Great TJ, IAON, Shakedown, LS & SOS.
Reviewer:
DFBayne
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August 24, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Outstanding 2d Set & Great Sound
Subject: Outstanding 2d Set & Great Sound
Disregard the review below this one. This is one of the best 2d sets of 1982. The first set is pretty standard stuff although nicely played. The
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second set however, kicks off with a thunderous Shakedown which develops a really nice groove in the middle jam before winding down into the first version of Lost Sailor>St. that I recall hearing that was more than just a time-killer (read bathroom song). This was the show where I finally got the point that Sailor>St. could be a killer combination. It's too bad Lost Sailor was shelved after the Philly run in '86.
The Spanish Jam is mislabeled on the list and actually comes before the drums. The post drums sequence is both well-executed and interesting. The rare UJB rising out of the space is a real treat and was quite a surprise at the time. The NFA that follows is blistering. The rest of the set is typical, but good, post-drums fare for 1982. The Baby Blue encore, however, was another treat. These earlier Baby Blues were not as perfunctory as the ones the band was doing as encores later in the 80's. Jerry nails the vocals on this one and does a few nice leads, so this is one to savor.
Take my word for it, if you have not downloaded this show, just do it -- don't even think about it, just do it.
The Spanish Jam is mislabeled on the list and actually comes before the drums. The post drums sequence is both well-executed and interesting. The rare UJB rising out of the space is a real treat and was quite a surprise at the time. The NFA that follows is blistering. The rest of the set is typical, but good, post-drums fare for 1982. The Baby Blue encore, however, was another treat. These earlier Baby Blues were not as perfunctory as the ones the band was doing as encores later in the 80's. Jerry nails the vocals on this one and does a few nice leads, so this is one to savor.
Take my word for it, if you have not downloaded this show, just do it -- don't even think about it, just do it.
Reviewer:
fitzy77
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June 29, 2005
Subject: My first Dead Show!!
Subject: My first Dead Show!!
Overall a pretty average show but you always remember breaking your cherry. Hitch-hiked to this one from a repressive Western MA prep school and missed
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the Minglewood but caught about half of Sugaree. Got into the Russian Lady in downtown Hartford after the show. Some douchebag bouncer let me and my five 16 year old friends in because we bribed him with a $20. What a peach of human being!!! As noted by an earlier reviewer, a nice Lost Sailer/Saint of Circumcision on this one, but for a better one try Achorage, AK 6/20/80. And can anyone for the life of them distinquish the so-called "Spanish Jam" from the plain old garden-variety "Space Jam"? It's all just white noise to this cowboy.
Reviewer:
lobster12
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April 4, 2005
Subject: sailor saint
Subject: sailor saint
agree with the reviewer early, my fav sailor saint. Good show overall but you have to check out the beginning of the second set
Reviewer:
floydtrane
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December 5, 2004
Subject: The precursor to 2 hot nights
Subject: The precursor to 2 hot nights
I recommend this show only if you have the next two nights. The playing is great, but the sound is a little rough for me. It is much quieter, and less
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crisp, as the 18th and 19th. That being said, get all three nights and enjoy a hot run.
Reviewer:
fireonshakedownstreet
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November 27, 2004 (edited)
Subject: Break out that old Victrola, put on your Rocking Shoes!!
Subject: Break out that old Victrola, put on your Rocking Shoes!!
Awesome funky Shakedown with grate solos by Garcia and amazing interplay between him and Brent. Brent's keys sound really trippy. This is followed by my
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all time fav Sailor>Saint. Passionate vocals by Bobby and ripping runs by Jerry. UJB is excellent. What gets me post Drums on this show every time is Around and Around>OMSN. I love Bobby's vocals on this. OMSN in particular is so grate. Bobby is just beside himself.
1982 is a landmark year for the Dead. For me this is the end of the Good Ol Grateful Dead Era that began in 1977. Its the last year Jerry can sing. Its the last year before the Junky Jerry era (83-85)which is one of my fav periods, but is nowhere near as tight as 77-82. The change between 82-83 is significant. 82 was the last year it had that really tight sharp sound. This is an excellent example of Good Ol Grateful Dead. Get it if you dont got it.
Peace
David
1982 is a landmark year for the Dead. For me this is the end of the Good Ol Grateful Dead Era that began in 1977. Its the last year Jerry can sing. Its the last year before the Junky Jerry era (83-85)which is one of my fav periods, but is nowhere near as tight as 77-82. The change between 82-83 is significant. 82 was the last year it had that really tight sharp sound. This is an excellent example of Good Ol Grateful Dead. Get it if you dont got it.
Peace
David
Reviewer:
Bill Mayer
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June 29, 2004
Subject: 4-17-82 - excellent moments
Subject: 4-17-82 - excellent moments
This show, and 4-18-82, were some of the best played at Hartford. 4-17 spills over the sides with crackling energy - Of particular note is the solid shakedown,
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with Jerry and Brent trading riffs playfully - Sailor was memorable for the goofing Jerry and Phil did behind bob - they swayed back and forth in *perfect* choreography for a good bit of the tune (like backup dancers), and Bob couldn't figure out why we were all cracking up in front....
THere is a Spanish Jam, but it is after Saint leading into drums, and without Jerry. Bob really shines - The drums space is remarkable (no foreshadow for the next's nights madness) with the lead-in to UJB absolutely beautiful. The jam from UJB into NFA is also fairly unique when juxtaposed against the more predictable versions that NFA would evolve into...
Finally, the Baby Blue ("for all you folks up back there who've been watching the back of our heads" bw) stands out as THE monster version - Jerry rips "forget the dead you left" verse with overwhelming power and emotion.
This show made the difficult security scene at Hartford worth the effort to get to a space for dancing.....
THere is a Spanish Jam, but it is after Saint leading into drums, and without Jerry. Bob really shines - The drums space is remarkable (no foreshadow for the next's nights madness) with the lead-in to UJB absolutely beautiful. The jam from UJB into NFA is also fairly unique when juxtaposed against the more predictable versions that NFA would evolve into...
Finally, the Baby Blue ("for all you folks up back there who've been watching the back of our heads" bw) stands out as THE monster version - Jerry rips "forget the dead you left" verse with overwhelming power and emotion.
This show made the difficult security scene at Hartford worth the effort to get to a space for dancing.....
Reviewer:
lilrichwhiteboy
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June 25, 2004 (edited)
Subject: Space > Uncle John's > Not Fade Away > Wharf Rat
Subject: Space > Uncle John's > Not Fade Away > Wharf Rat
Haven't heard this upload in a couple of years and was scratching my head when I heard the Minglewood again. I now have to rewrite this whole "SBD" review.
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I hate to tell youz guyz, but I think everyone else has to relisten too. This sounds like an F.O.B. Listen to how close the whistling is. It's closer than the band... much closer. I read on bt.etree somewhere there is a Nak 700 > D5 FOB from Barry Glassberg that isn't circulating much. Well this could be it. I've also heard about another, possibly by Rob Eaton.
Woops, sorry guyz. Looks like Minglewood was an AUD patch. Hmm, will I have to rewrite for a third time? Think not. Anyway, I've had a so-so, muddy audience copy of the second set since late '82. Not having kept the 1st set (I am not a completeist), Fitzy may be correct that the majority of the show is just average. But the Minglewood was solid so it might be better than I remember (Not that I've ever had to rethink my opinion about a show.)
The above segment of the second set is one of my favorite passages in GD history. The long, delicate intro by Jerry into UJB is just so wonderful, it almost - well, yes it does - it brings tears to my eyes. They really nail the body too - w/ cowbell. And the trans into NFA is fabulous. I agree wholeheartedly with all of Bill's review...very unique. Both favorites! My only beef is that NFA is fairly short. It's funny, my impression with UJB is also the same. But at over nine minutes, I really can't complain. I guess it's just becuase I truly want it to go on forever.............................
Woops, sorry guyz. Looks like Minglewood was an AUD patch. Hmm, will I have to rewrite for a third time? Think not. Anyway, I've had a so-so, muddy audience copy of the second set since late '82. Not having kept the 1st set (I am not a completeist), Fitzy may be correct that the majority of the show is just average. But the Minglewood was solid so it might be better than I remember (Not that I've ever had to rethink my opinion about a show.)
The above segment of the second set is one of my favorite passages in GD history. The long, delicate intro by Jerry into UJB is just so wonderful, it almost - well, yes it does - it brings tears to my eyes. They really nail the body too - w/ cowbell. And the trans into NFA is fabulous. I agree wholeheartedly with all of Bill's review...very unique. Both favorites! My only beef is that NFA is fairly short. It's funny, my impression with UJB is also the same. But at over nine minutes, I really can't complain. I guess it's just becuase I truly want it to go on forever.............................
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