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Understanding 9/11Grateful Dead Live at Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum on 1992-12-17
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- 1992-12-17 ( check for other copies)
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Touch Of Gray, Walkin' Blues, Loser, Queen Jane Approximately, So Many Roads, The Music Never Stopped Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain, Way To Go Home, Corinna, Uncle John's Band-> Playin' In The Band Reprise-> Drums-> Jam-> The Last Time-> Here Comes Sunshine-> Throwing Stones-> Not Fade Away, E:Baba O'Riley-> E: Tomorrow Never Knows
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Dan Healy 2 track pa sbd dat master > Healy cassette (made by Dan for Phil Lesh) > confiscated by Dick Latvala > analog to digital by kingbee using Aoxoa's nak dragon for playback > panasonic sv3800 dat > HHb800> CDR; stemming from Tommy Banjo & MerryPranksterTree, seeded to etree by StoneBear
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- Dan Healy 2 track pa sbd dat master > Healy cassette > analog to digital by kingbee using Aoxoa's nak dragon for playback > panasonic sv3800 dat > HHb800> CDR
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- Oakland, CA
- Numeric_id
- 13234
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- 1992
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Reviewer:
zzzboxofrainzzz
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December 17, 2020
Subject: Vince sang....
Subject: Vince sang....
The Baba O'Reilly > Tomorrow Never Knows pairing
Reviewer:
bburns02
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September 11, 2020
Subject: Who Sang Who?
Subject: Who Sang Who?
I'm just curious. Who sang baba O'Riley? I read someone above saying it was not Phil. But no one has said who it is. Stay safe. Stay kind. 2020 can kiss
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my grits!
Reviewer:
kbmill
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February 19, 2019
Subject: bread crumb
Subject: bread crumb
Adios 1992, you were short, and sometimes sweet.
Reviewer:
Mind Wondrin
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August 17, 2016 (edited)
Subject: strange run
This was the erstwhile NYE party, post-Graham. Apparently the band didn't really miss the craziness of the NYE gigs but the Heads sure did; one of ... several an-era-has-ended signals. It was the last of 5 shows, that made up for NYE with a long run and encore surprises. If you take the 1st set from the day before and this 2nd set, you'd have best show of the run and maybe the best of Fall '92. The 1st set is weirdly short @45mins but the 2nd is over 2hrs. Note covers of the Stones, Beatles and The Who, 3 of the 4 great UK 60s bands. The only thing missing is The Kinks!
First Set. Though starting perfunctory, they tighten by Loser, if lacking energy. So Many Roads is clunky, as usual - it should have been nailed by now. The drummers have no piece of the arrangement so they're just comping. Music Never Stopped may not excite but Vince is good here.
Second Set. The top of this set is one of the highlights of the run (though it was left off the official release). Scarlet has fine work from Jer and the whole band takes Fire to x-factor. The energy gained is abandoned for the next few. Corrina is such a half-developed, montone vamp that it's hard to tell good from bad, but they are back on...but then off again for Uncle John's. How does the song go indeed, flailing about and crashing the set's momentum. The Playin' reprise is solid and it's a major, half-hour Drums>Space. The third of the returned Here Comes Sunshines has Jer losing the thread, skipping to the 3rd verse then repeating the 1st, and the band playing scattered. Jer makes up for it in Throwing Stones, but not the rest of the boys, and it's very shoes-in-dryer. Baba O'Riley is probably a top version - probably. Tomorrow Never Knows gets by but the opening vox - Ouch! It interpolates Talking Heads (fat chance that Bobby or Jer actually knew this).
1st Set: D+
2nd Set: B-
Overall = 2½ stars (2 + ½ for the Scar>Fire)
Highlights:
Scarlet Begonias - Jer's best work
Fire on the Mountain - probably the best of '92
Baba O'Riley - maybe best of '92
SOURCES: stonebear.5552 seems best though there's a cut between Drums>Space and a dropout in Space @17:24. The last four tracks are on Dick's #27 (the gods know why - the sequence novelty perhaps?).
Subject: strange run
This was the erstwhile NYE party, post-Graham. Apparently the band didn't really miss the craziness of the NYE gigs but the Heads sure did; one of ... several an-era-has-ended signals. It was the last of 5 shows, that made up for NYE with a long run and encore surprises. If you take the 1st set from the day before and this 2nd set, you'd have best show of the run and maybe the best of Fall '92. The 1st set is weirdly short @45mins but the 2nd is over 2hrs. Note covers of the Stones, Beatles and The Who, 3 of the 4 great UK 60s bands. The only thing missing is The Kinks!
First Set. Though starting perfunctory, they tighten by Loser, if lacking energy. So Many Roads is clunky, as usual - it should have been nailed by now. The drummers have no piece of the arrangement so they're just comping. Music Never Stopped may not excite but Vince is good here.
Second Set. The top of this set is one of the highlights of the run (though it was left off the official release). Scarlet has fine work from Jer and the whole band takes Fire to x-factor. The energy gained is abandoned for the next few. Corrina is such a half-developed, montone vamp that it's hard to tell good from bad, but they are back on...but then off again for Uncle John's. How does the song go indeed, flailing about and crashing the set's momentum. The Playin' reprise is solid and it's a major, half-hour Drums>Space. The third of the returned Here Comes Sunshines has Jer losing the thread, skipping to the 3rd verse then repeating the 1st, and the band playing scattered. Jer makes up for it in Throwing Stones, but not the rest of the boys, and it's very shoes-in-dryer. Baba O'Riley is probably a top version - probably. Tomorrow Never Knows gets by but the opening vox - Ouch! It interpolates Talking Heads (fat chance that Bobby or Jer actually knew this).
1st Set: D+
2nd Set: B-
Overall = 2½ stars (2 + ½ for the Scar>Fire)
Highlights:
Scarlet Begonias - Jer's best work
Fire on the Mountain - probably the best of '92
Baba O'Riley - maybe best of '92
SOURCES: stonebear.5552 seems best though there's a cut between Drums>Space and a dropout in Space @17:24. The last four tracks are on Dick's #27 (the gods know why - the sequence novelty perhaps?).
Reviewer:
DJJazzZD
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September 29, 2015
Subject: British Invasion
Subject: British Invasion
Good so many roads and MNS.
Set 2 they cover the Rolling stones /Last time. The Who
/Baba O' Rielly and the Beatles/TMK. Funny factoid. Not sure if that ... ever occurred?
Interesting placement of HC Sunshine.
Anyways they blew the pipes out the night before.
Set 2 they cover the Rolling stones /Last time. The Who
/Baba O' Rielly and the Beatles/TMK. Funny factoid. Not sure if that ... ever occurred?
Interesting placement of HC Sunshine.
Anyways they blew the pipes out the night before.
Reviewer:
oaklandhead
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November 4, 2011 (edited)
Subject: a life shifting show , once was blind but now I see.
Subject: a life shifting show , once was blind but now I see.
This Corrina was the most kind ever. A show where the band got down with the home crowd and gave it there all. You had to be there. thx GD
Reviewer:
johnny shell
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September 9, 2008 (edited)
Subject: ok show
Subject: ok show
first set sounds nice... pretty standard for the time but nicely played and mellow. Queen Jane has is a bit quicker than I'm used to and Mickey (I'm assuming)
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gives is a funky feel with some bongo playing or something.
So Many Roads is really sang from the heart and really brings things to a stop, I guess you could say. Not in a bad way some how. But it just seems to bring you right to the moment in a very peaceful way while at the same time killing all forward momentum.
Not sure that Music was the best song to follow that with... seems kinda hokey & forced or something. But once Bobby gets finished singing the whole mood instantly changes and things return to the sweet mood that Jerry set with SMR, for a moment at least.
But it reminds me of where I want the 2nd set to take me... hopefully it'll deliver!
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ok, done with the 2nd set now. didn't really deliver what I was looking for after those sweet moments during SMR & near the end of Music.
pre drumz seemed forced & going through the motions... post drumz was entertaining, if typical for the era.
Other than the HC Sunshine. that placement was weird, even without the vocal intro that we got used to later on, but it was a sweet version nevertheless.
So Many Roads is really sang from the heart and really brings things to a stop, I guess you could say. Not in a bad way some how. But it just seems to bring you right to the moment in a very peaceful way while at the same time killing all forward momentum.
Not sure that Music was the best song to follow that with... seems kinda hokey & forced or something. But once Bobby gets finished singing the whole mood instantly changes and things return to the sweet mood that Jerry set with SMR, for a moment at least.
But it reminds me of where I want the 2nd set to take me... hopefully it'll deliver!
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ok, done with the 2nd set now. didn't really deliver what I was looking for after those sweet moments during SMR & near the end of Music.
pre drumz seemed forced & going through the motions... post drumz was entertaining, if typical for the era.
Other than the HC Sunshine. that placement was weird, even without the vocal intro that we got used to later on, but it was a sweet version nevertheless.
Reviewer:
thymer72
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December 18, 2007
Subject: Decent but slow show...
Subject: Decent but slow show...
I liked the Scarlet Fire a bit.
Too bad they took down the soundboards...
thyme
Too bad they took down the soundboards...
thyme
Reviewer:
Evan S. Hunt
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December 18, 2006
Subject: Larry's Birthday Celebration
Subject: Larry's Birthday Celebration
This is a good recording and a decent performance. This show is worth the listen if you are celebrating a certain event with someone special and the music
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can provide a loud background. For this purpose it is more than adequate. Tonight I am doing this show in honor of my friend and driver, Larry Perata, who has stuck with me through weal or woe for 42 years. Dig the really deliberate intro on HC Sunshine. It will melt your brain, or re-form it into the jello in which you've molded. I will give this show a 4 for recording and a 3 for performance. 3.5
Reviewer:
kingdork
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March 5, 2006
Subject: An Average Night
Subject: An Average Night
I'd D/L only if you are a completest
3 stars for the SBD quality.
3 stars for the SBD quality.
Reviewer:
brendanmcauley
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August 7, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Nice Post-Space HC Sunshine!
Subject: Nice Post-Space HC Sunshine!
This show is really great in my very strong opinion. The show is top quality sound- 5 stars all the way.
Nothing special to mention outsideofo the HC ... sunshine- an unusual placement for the song as the band tried to figure out its place since this was only the 3rd time it was played since the bust out on 12.6 in Tempe AZ.
The lyrics on scarlet are clean and true and the only belmish is that the person who uploaded it had scarlet ending exactly on the last lyric; "heart of gold ban- and the d from 'band' is the first uttering of the next song "fire"..since windows mp doesn't allow continuous play and forces gaps between songs its sort of a rough transition. I have listend to thousands of hours of dead trust me folks this s a keeper despite what others may say...
Top knotch quality sound and a great list! If you are looking for some thing hot from 1992 check out 3.5.92 at Hampton...great HSF and great Eyes from set two!!!!
Nothing special to mention outsideofo the HC ... sunshine- an unusual placement for the song as the band tried to figure out its place since this was only the 3rd time it was played since the bust out on 12.6 in Tempe AZ.
The lyrics on scarlet are clean and true and the only belmish is that the person who uploaded it had scarlet ending exactly on the last lyric; "heart of gold ban- and the d from 'band' is the first uttering of the next song "fire"..since windows mp doesn't allow continuous play and forces gaps between songs its sort of a rough transition. I have listend to thousands of hours of dead trust me folks this s a keeper despite what others may say...
Top knotch quality sound and a great list! If you are looking for some thing hot from 1992 check out 3.5.92 at Hampton...great HSF and great Eyes from set two!!!!
Reviewer:
Nanker Phelge99
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July 13, 2005
Subject: Don't Bother
Subject: Don't Bother
My take on this show is a bit different, I guess. The soundboard is clear, but the sound has got so much noise gate that the instruments sound weak and
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distant and clipped. Weir's voice is completely shot. And Garcia may be awake, most of the time, MAYBE, but his head is not in the show. The 1st set is only 6 songs and Garcia begins to fade by the third. He only gets about 1/2 of the words in on Sunshine. The band shows some faint pulse during the Throwing-NFA but it has that "we better give them something here 'cause it's about to end and its been weak" feeling. (If you saw shows during this time period - it's a feeling you know). And Garcia only takes one real solo during this rally, and just jams the chords the rest of the time. hardly prime stuff. I'm a big Vinnie fan, but he can't salvage this show either. The Healy mix is especially unkind to Vince anyway.
Reviewer:
Thymer
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April 15, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Good show
Subject: Good show
This was a good show. I was at all shows for this run except 12-11.
I remember being pissed off that I didn't psyche for 12-16, so I made up for it at ... this show. However, this show does not live up to the hype 12-16 recieved. A good solid performance none the less. Nice So Many Roads, Scarlet/Fire...
I remember being pissed off that I didn't psyche for 12-16, so I made up for it at ... this show. However, this show does not live up to the hype 12-16 recieved. A good solid performance none the less. Nice So Many Roads, Scarlet/Fire...
Reviewer:
lobster12
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April 5, 2005 (edited)
Subject: second set only
Subject: second set only
4 stars for set 2 only. skip the throwaway first set. nicely played and very enjoyable. Love the site more and more. I prefer this second set to the night
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before.
Reviewer:
Tito&Smokey
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March 23, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Phenominal sound
Subject: Phenominal sound
good ad to the collection.Ever notice that after Healy got shitcanned Garcias Giutar sounded a little "acousticly"?i liked it.still do
Reviewer:
StrawRider
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February 20, 2005
Subject: What's This?
Subject: What's This?
Something from 92 that is worthy? You bet it is. I've gone from top to bottom here at the Archive and this show has shown me what I knew was true all the
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time: The Dead were always good, no matter what year (generally speaking and I haven't gone beyond 92) it's just the great shows became far and fewer between. Download this one and tell me I'm wrong. I suppose now I'll need to get Dick's Picks 27 (the show from the night before) as well. It's the least I can do to show my appreciation for all the incredible free shows that inhabit my two enormous CD cases I've filled up in the last three months!
I was at this show...I think. Dang, they all roll into one, don't they?
I was at this show...I think. Dang, they all roll into one, don't they?
Reviewer:
REA04
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August 24, 2004
Subject: Unbelievable Sound
Subject: Unbelievable Sound
This has to be one of the sharpest recordings I've yet heard. The band sounds great in that "big train rumbling down the tracks" kinda way, and the sound
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is almost too pristine to be believed. An excellent addition to anyone's collection, especially for good latter-day Dead. The "Corrina" absolutely rocks, and I am NOT a fan of that tune, generally speaking.....
Reviewer:
Reece
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June 26, 2004 (edited)
Subject: overlooked gem
Subject: overlooked gem
It is understandable that the previous night's show gets most of the fan fare from this run but it is surprising to me how little notice this show seems
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to get. Like the night before, Garcia is in particularly fine form following his medical sabatical to cap off the final '92 shows. And Phil is just, well, the shiznit. While the first set is short and fairly unremarkable on paper, it is solid throughout. Noteworthy are a hot Loser and a Music Never Stopped which Garcia and Phil send through the roof.
The Phil and Jerry show continues in the second set with a great Scarlet>Fire. A nice Uncle John's is capped with a short but powerful Playin' reprise - a nice tie-in to the Playin' from the night before which dissolves into drums. My favorite of the newly revived Here Comes Sunshines makes a suprise and sadly under-utilized post-drums appearance (sans vocal intro) with some nice runs by Garcia at the end. The set ends with a great Throwing Stones and with one of the best versions of NFA I have ever heard. All I can say is that Phil is a big maniacal rubber spider. Listen and maybe you'll see what I mean.
The Baba O'Reiley>Tomorrow Never Knows encore had not yet overstayed it's welcome.
Also should mention that this is a truly gorgeous recording worthy of the download on its own accord.
Generally, I do not hold the post-Hornsby years in high regard, but these shows are an exception and this particular night is worth a listen.
The Phil and Jerry show continues in the second set with a great Scarlet>Fire. A nice Uncle John's is capped with a short but powerful Playin' reprise - a nice tie-in to the Playin' from the night before which dissolves into drums. My favorite of the newly revived Here Comes Sunshines makes a suprise and sadly under-utilized post-drums appearance (sans vocal intro) with some nice runs by Garcia at the end. The set ends with a great Throwing Stones and with one of the best versions of NFA I have ever heard. All I can say is that Phil is a big maniacal rubber spider. Listen and maybe you'll see what I mean.
The Baba O'Reiley>Tomorrow Never Knows encore had not yet overstayed it's welcome.
Also should mention that this is a truly gorgeous recording worthy of the download on its own accord.
Generally, I do not hold the post-Hornsby years in high regard, but these shows are an exception and this particular night is worth a listen.
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