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Bertha, Mexicali Blues, Loser, Black Throated Wind, They Love Each Other, Beat It On Down The Line, Deal, El Paso, Row Jimmy, Greatest Story Ever Told, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Around And Around Ramble On Rose, Me And My Uncle, Here Comes Sunshine, Big River, Dark Star-> Eyes Of The World> Stella Blue, Sugar Magnolia
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SBD MR > 1 cass gen > DAT > (AUD patching)> CD > EAC > SHN> slight retrack for d2t3, d3t1, d3t4> shnv2 on those tracks; d3 tracked for 80 min; see notes in info file; seed via David Gans, Jim Powell, Dave Greenberg; shns via Seth Kaplan, Alan Fink, G.S. Hamilton
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Reviewer:
dirtymingusmcgee
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December 7, 2023
Subject: 50 yrs strong
Subject: 50 yrs strong
Some glorious music right here. I’m not quite sure how it can be urged to listen objectively while at the same time stating that you’re partial to
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one version of a song over another. To listen objectively you gotta do away with comparisons and notions of other versions. And for someone to complain about Phil assaulting our ears! The horror… But then again I love a good ear assault. In all seriousness though, this HCS, Big River, DS, Eyes is about as good an 80 minute stretch of music that I could ever hear. God bless the Grateful Dead
Reviewer:
sillypumpkins
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November 6, 2023
Subject: Jonnyb, respectfully…..
Subject: Jonnyb, respectfully…..
There are recording(s) of Keith playing organ with the band. Didn’t happen often (maybe only once?) but he absolutely did. And yes he did bust out the
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Rhodes in 73-74
Reviewer:
jonnyb73
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April 17, 2023
Subject: Keith's organ?
Subject: Keith's organ?
Hey Kalifornia Kowboy......Keith never played organ, he only played a grand piano or his Fender Rhodes, never an organ, that's why they kicked him out
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of the band, they wanted more texture and different sounds and Keith refused....plus he sucked and was falling asleep onstage because he was whacked out on pills and alcohol and Bobby was banging Donna(why?)
Reviewer:
Kalifornia Kowboy
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August 26, 2019
Subject: Dark Star...In the camp of love it or hate it...I'm in the love-it!
Subject: Dark Star...In the camp of love it or hate it...I'm in the love-it!
Keith! The sounds of Keith's Fender Rhodes are key to this Dark Star. At moments, roughly at the 18-19 minute mark, sounds like Zepellin's No Quarter with
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the spooky organ sounds. Phil takes over for a good chunk of the latter half of this epic Dark Star. I love a long meandering jam but longest does not necessarily mean best and there are some famously mammoth jams that I've been disappointed in because they seem to lack purpose. And this DS is one of the longest, depending on how you measure it, so I was worried based on some of the reviews that this DS was a lackluster mess. I had to give it a shot and what separates this DS from other long jams that loose energy is that there are seamless transitions between all the wonderful worlds through which this DS travels--yes, travels through many distant galaxies and dimensions of space (our minds). The DS Starts slow, mellow, spacey, this section underlined by Keith's wonderful organ playing as mentioned above, then into the verse, a tad tentative, but definitely fitting the super-spacey vibe. Then Phil lays it down hard--actually a wonderful section--not as unlistenable for the uninitiated as I had suspected it would be. Then they bring back together for the Eyes. Which isn't as great as 11/11/1973, my personal favorite Dark Star->Eyes ever and definitely some of the Dead's best 50 minutes every played on stage. But this Dark Star has gotta be a candidate for spaciest ever. Wonderful stuff!
As stated by many others, the Here Comes Sunshine is also perfect. Rivals 12-19. The China Cat Sunflower>Rider is also definitely worth a listen.
The sound is 5 stars +. Thanks to those who brought us this music. Would love to see a Fall '72 box set or a Novemeber-December 73 box set officially issued, but will continue to visit the archive for gems like this. Thank you tapers!
As stated by many others, the Here Comes Sunshine is also perfect. Rivals 12-19. The China Cat Sunflower>Rider is also definitely worth a listen.
The sound is 5 stars +. Thanks to those who brought us this music. Would love to see a Fall '72 box set or a Novemeber-December 73 box set officially issued, but will continue to visit the archive for gems like this. Thank you tapers!
Reviewer:
Jepp_The_Dead_Head
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May 31, 2019
Subject: Incredible!
Subject: Incredible!
I simply can't believe how good the sound quality is here, and the set list is to die for!
10/5
10/5
Reviewer:
OhioRedDog
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January 26, 2017
Subject: Donna
Subject: Donna
Weir: Donna is not with us tonight
Crowd: ::Raucous Applause::
Crowd: ::Raucous Applause::
Reviewer:
jjg4762
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November 28, 2015
Subject: To be tripping again
Subject: To be tripping again
This Dark Star is 1 as a kid in high school I would trip to... We had always hung out in a friends basement in total peace because his mom was the 1st
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known Alcoholic to us. she would be upstairs drinking away and us downstairs tripping away. Oh the good old days of youth.
This sound along with the set list and great listen gives this show a pure 5 stars
This sound along with the set list and great listen gives this show a pure 5 stars
Reviewer:
ginosega
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March 11, 2015
Subject: A psychedelic tour de force
Subject: A psychedelic tour de force
This is a solid show from start to finish with some superb moments like the China>Rider and Here Come Sunshine. It's the Dark Star, however, that makes
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this night stand out as one of those "if I only had a time machine" shows. It is majestic and transcendent and I can't imagine what it would have been like to experience it live. It's not for everyone - you have to like going to these dark places and have the time and the mind set to fully immerse yourself in the experience. If that's your thing, though, you won't find any music anywhere as delightfully weird as this!
The Dead in late 1973 were as hot as they ever got - every show from this tour is strong, and they played each set and song with focus and polish. They had perfected their skills as musicians and performers, and could switch at will from hard-driving, tight rock & roll to that sweet '73 "honey" sound to deep space exploration. Phil in particular was super-energetic on this tour, often playing "lead bass" and extended jams with mega bombs and feedback. What's so great about this Dark Star is that you get the band at the peak of their powers completely abandoning all reason, logic, and control, letting themselves get taken as far into the void as they ever went.
A funny thing about this Dark Star is it doesn't really start; the tuning after Big River simply dissolves into a series of spacey jams and soon you realize that this is in fact the plan. About 12 minutes in Phil fires the engines and turns the ship out of orbit, until at 17 minutes we have arrived in the deepest, darkest part of the galaxy, a place inhabited by giant, planet-sized beings made of multi-color translucent goo. We wander here for a while, the engines shut down, the ship's sails filled by the cosmic winds. Only at 21 minutes into the song do they actually start *playing* the song, and the melody and first verse is delivered soft and relaxed to fit the mood. We then return to our journey through time, and there follows ten solid minutes of far-out space, ranging from the quietest moments to full-on feedback from all cylinders. At about 36 minutes we start the return trip, passing through more familiar systems on our way back home. This is truly a masterwork of the Grateful Dead's darkest muse.
The Eyes that follows is a cool, refreshing breeze after such a long trip. It's plenty Dark Starred too - listen as the chaos creeps into the jam at the 9 minute mark and the Dead pull the song back from the brink - must have been fun.
This is truly an epic show with a Dark Star for the ages. I hope that hundreds of years from now people are still listening to this as reverently as we are now.
The Dead in late 1973 were as hot as they ever got - every show from this tour is strong, and they played each set and song with focus and polish. They had perfected their skills as musicians and performers, and could switch at will from hard-driving, tight rock & roll to that sweet '73 "honey" sound to deep space exploration. Phil in particular was super-energetic on this tour, often playing "lead bass" and extended jams with mega bombs and feedback. What's so great about this Dark Star is that you get the band at the peak of their powers completely abandoning all reason, logic, and control, letting themselves get taken as far into the void as they ever went.
A funny thing about this Dark Star is it doesn't really start; the tuning after Big River simply dissolves into a series of spacey jams and soon you realize that this is in fact the plan. About 12 minutes in Phil fires the engines and turns the ship out of orbit, until at 17 minutes we have arrived in the deepest, darkest part of the galaxy, a place inhabited by giant, planet-sized beings made of multi-color translucent goo. We wander here for a while, the engines shut down, the ship's sails filled by the cosmic winds. Only at 21 minutes into the song do they actually start *playing* the song, and the melody and first verse is delivered soft and relaxed to fit the mood. We then return to our journey through time, and there follows ten solid minutes of far-out space, ranging from the quietest moments to full-on feedback from all cylinders. At about 36 minutes we start the return trip, passing through more familiar systems on our way back home. This is truly a masterwork of the Grateful Dead's darkest muse.
The Eyes that follows is a cool, refreshing breeze after such a long trip. It's plenty Dark Starred too - listen as the chaos creeps into the jam at the 9 minute mark and the Dead pull the song back from the brink - must have been fun.
This is truly an epic show with a Dark Star for the ages. I hope that hundreds of years from now people are still listening to this as reverently as we are now.
Reviewer:
JerzeyJoe
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December 7, 2014
Subject: Spin Spin Spin
Subject: Spin Spin Spin
I could not keep count on The Spinners during Dark Star at Giants Stadium.I don't know how they spin for 45 minutes.I was dizzy just watching them
Reviewer:
Bigriver
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August 4, 2014
Subject: Agree with lescaret
Subject: Agree with lescaret
Dark Star is a metaphor for Mind.
Sometimes the mind meanders, sometimes it is clear light. It is all Mind, and it is limited if any element is absent.
I ... call this version the Higgs Field of Dark Stars. Lots of space to navigate through, some freely, some by picking up more mass.
Sometimes the mind meanders, sometimes it is clear light. It is all Mind, and it is limited if any element is absent.
I ... call this version the Higgs Field of Dark Stars. Lots of space to navigate through, some freely, some by picking up more mass.
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quinn_76!
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April 12, 2013 (edited)
Subject: A Sober(ing) Review: two & a half stars
Subject: A Sober(ing) Review: two & a half stars
Here's hoping I don't incur too much wrath here, but I have to respectfully disagree with all that's been said about this show, (“deadheaddave”'s below
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review notwithstanding). Indeed, it is '73 Dead (and even some of the worst played shows of '73 can still hold a robust candle to several top-shelf shows played from other years (even ’72 & ’77) in the Dead's stupendous catalog. Still, one has to give credit where credit is due… and offer constructive criticism when due.
To start, the first set of this show in Cleveland offers a standard menu of ditties that are played with an underwhelming level of gusto and inspiration, all things being equal. Allow me to cherry-pick a few numbers from the first set to illustrate my point. Not unlike many folks, I love the TLEO’s of '73, but this one feels sluggish and phoned-in, and is far inferior to others played this year (look to 2/15, 3/22, 9/7, 11/9, 11/30 for examples). Bobby Ace's seemingly strained vocals on GSET are not his best offering, and the ending segment of the song never quite broaches the jamming apex of other versions of the year (2/26 & 11/9 come to mind). The CHINA->RIDER paring to close the first set is executed pleasantly enough, but can one name one in '73 that isn’t? (And there are far superior versions offered from the year: 3/22, 3/16, 11/11, 11/14 come directly to mind....)
The second set (not surprisingly) offers more ear glitter than the first, but still ultimately leaves something to be desired—based on all the hype it gets. In order to avoid filibustering the obvious point of discussion for this set, I'll be curt and address the elephant in the room: DARK STAR! Clocking in at nearly 44 minutes, this version on the surface should be every Head's wet dream, and then some. Well… perhaps. Although this particular DS far & away exceeds its quota in terms of length, that doesn't necessary mean it does so in terms of performance. I’m of the persuasion that the long-winded duration and over-hyped chitter-chatter have blindsided some listener’s objective judgment. Get the cotton of yer ears folks! Yes, it’s a very long DS from the greatest band to have graced this earth, but there are many versions that should—and do—rank above this one. It should go without saying, but nevertheless I’ll divulge: 2/27/69, 2/13/70, 9/19/70, 2/18/71, 4/8/72, 5/11/72, 8/27/72, 9/21/72… to name a few). But I digress. Anyway, for this DS on this particular night, a little more focus, and a little less aimless meandering would have made this one a much stronger candidate for the best of 1973. At one point around a 1/4 of the way through this DS, Mr. Lesh tries to inject some adrenaline into this otherwise lifeless beast by plucking Phil bombs in the hopes of making something happen. It seems as if the boys begin to follow his lead, but it is only fleeting, and the half-baked jam wanders off again into a sedated directionless fixture of sound. In truth, this version never hits the peaks and valleys of other versions from this year (2/15 & 11/11 are the obvious ones, while10/19 & 12/18 deserve an honorable mention). The EYES that follows the DS, while good (even the worst Eyes of '73 is still stellar!) is nowhere near the best of the year. (Look to 2/15, 2/22, 5/26, 9/7, 10/19, 10/29, 11/11 for prime candidates).
Again, not to pee on everyone's parade here, but in a year like 1973, we all need to be ever mindful about being very objective about every show played in this incredible year. Of course, I’ll concede that this is a decent show (It's 1973, by jove!), but compared to some of its brothers & sisters of the same year, it pails IMHO.
I urge everyone to please listen objectively and perhaps you'll see my point...which is that this show seems to get inordinately praise precisely because of its extraordinarily long DARK STAR, and, in-turn, has garnered much hype, be it warranted or not.
I have a suspicion some curious listeners unfamiliar with certain shows or year(s) might stumble upon a show like this one, partly because it has so many reviews and it has attracted so much discussion that a snowball effect began to take shape. If I were less familiar was an era and was looking for a ’73 show, I might listen to this one first without having the benefit of hearing others, and be blown away by this night bar-none! After all, it’s a Grateful Dead show played in ’73, which, all told, is high caliber music. But if I had already listened to the likes of shows from 2/15, 2/19, 3/22, 3/24, 10/19, 10/21, 11/11, 11/14, 11/17, 11/30, 12/2, 12/18, 12/19… well… well…
But each to his/her own. My two cents on this one has been written. BTW, this show is only the second most overrated show of ’73 IMHO… the prize for #1 goes to 6/10!
Be kind, love thy neighbor, and listen to the Grateful DEAD!
p.s. All grievances aside, I must mention the HERE COMES SUNSHINE from this night. This version is one to behold, indeed! This one should be placed among the likes of 12/19, 11/30 & 11/17.
To start, the first set of this show in Cleveland offers a standard menu of ditties that are played with an underwhelming level of gusto and inspiration, all things being equal. Allow me to cherry-pick a few numbers from the first set to illustrate my point. Not unlike many folks, I love the TLEO’s of '73, but this one feels sluggish and phoned-in, and is far inferior to others played this year (look to 2/15, 3/22, 9/7, 11/9, 11/30 for examples). Bobby Ace's seemingly strained vocals on GSET are not his best offering, and the ending segment of the song never quite broaches the jamming apex of other versions of the year (2/26 & 11/9 come to mind). The CHINA->RIDER paring to close the first set is executed pleasantly enough, but can one name one in '73 that isn’t? (And there are far superior versions offered from the year: 3/22, 3/16, 11/11, 11/14 come directly to mind....)
The second set (not surprisingly) offers more ear glitter than the first, but still ultimately leaves something to be desired—based on all the hype it gets. In order to avoid filibustering the obvious point of discussion for this set, I'll be curt and address the elephant in the room: DARK STAR! Clocking in at nearly 44 minutes, this version on the surface should be every Head's wet dream, and then some. Well… perhaps. Although this particular DS far & away exceeds its quota in terms of length, that doesn't necessary mean it does so in terms of performance. I’m of the persuasion that the long-winded duration and over-hyped chitter-chatter have blindsided some listener’s objective judgment. Get the cotton of yer ears folks! Yes, it’s a very long DS from the greatest band to have graced this earth, but there are many versions that should—and do—rank above this one. It should go without saying, but nevertheless I’ll divulge: 2/27/69, 2/13/70, 9/19/70, 2/18/71, 4/8/72, 5/11/72, 8/27/72, 9/21/72… to name a few). But I digress. Anyway, for this DS on this particular night, a little more focus, and a little less aimless meandering would have made this one a much stronger candidate for the best of 1973. At one point around a 1/4 of the way through this DS, Mr. Lesh tries to inject some adrenaline into this otherwise lifeless beast by plucking Phil bombs in the hopes of making something happen. It seems as if the boys begin to follow his lead, but it is only fleeting, and the half-baked jam wanders off again into a sedated directionless fixture of sound. In truth, this version never hits the peaks and valleys of other versions from this year (2/15 & 11/11 are the obvious ones, while10/19 & 12/18 deserve an honorable mention). The EYES that follows the DS, while good (even the worst Eyes of '73 is still stellar!) is nowhere near the best of the year. (Look to 2/15, 2/22, 5/26, 9/7, 10/19, 10/29, 11/11 for prime candidates).
Again, not to pee on everyone's parade here, but in a year like 1973, we all need to be ever mindful about being very objective about every show played in this incredible year. Of course, I’ll concede that this is a decent show (It's 1973, by jove!), but compared to some of its brothers & sisters of the same year, it pails IMHO.
I urge everyone to please listen objectively and perhaps you'll see my point...which is that this show seems to get inordinately praise precisely because of its extraordinarily long DARK STAR, and, in-turn, has garnered much hype, be it warranted or not.
I have a suspicion some curious listeners unfamiliar with certain shows or year(s) might stumble upon a show like this one, partly because it has so many reviews and it has attracted so much discussion that a snowball effect began to take shape. If I were less familiar was an era and was looking for a ’73 show, I might listen to this one first without having the benefit of hearing others, and be blown away by this night bar-none! After all, it’s a Grateful Dead show played in ’73, which, all told, is high caliber music. But if I had already listened to the likes of shows from 2/15, 2/19, 3/22, 3/24, 10/19, 10/21, 11/11, 11/14, 11/17, 11/30, 12/2, 12/18, 12/19… well… well…
But each to his/her own. My two cents on this one has been written. BTW, this show is only the second most overrated show of ’73 IMHO… the prize for #1 goes to 6/10!
Be kind, love thy neighbor, and listen to the Grateful DEAD!
p.s. All grievances aside, I must mention the HERE COMES SUNSHINE from this night. This version is one to behold, indeed! This one should be placed among the likes of 12/19, 11/30 & 11/17.
Reviewer:
lp357
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December 15, 2012
Subject: Hiding my joy!
Subject: Hiding my joy!
The other day i was listnening to this this show on my mp3 player at work, i started to bounce, bebop, and boogie to another time and place, this show
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overwhelms me words fall short. H.R. may ask for a tox. screen, a 56 year old engineer shouldnt be that happy!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reviewer:
ellisthemess
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November 1, 2011
Subject: keep on truckin
Subject: keep on truckin
this show is a perfect example of why i saw 300 shows thats right i said 300 .shows like this are one in a hundred.this is why i kept going back.some shows
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are so good the joy oozes out of your skin.at the end of this show the cheers for an encore were ecstatic. ihave had some of my most wonderful experiences during and right after a show like this.now i just read a review which said dark star sucked. the feedback for me during dark star was worth thje price of a ticket. thats whart makes the world go round. just keep listening and remember.
Reviewer:
grifftrain2000
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April 19, 2011
Subject: 1973-12-06
Subject: 1973-12-06
Excellent version of Here comes Sunshine. All around good show from 73
Reviewer:
Pangolin22
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February 16, 2011
Subject: Another Great Show from a Great Year
Subject: Another Great Show from a Great Year
Nothing unusual in the set list but everything is played to perfection. The Dark Star-> Eyes > Stella is spectacular especially that Dark Star...
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out of this world. Jerry doesn't start singing until 25 minutes in!Phil does some strange, strange things.
Reviewer:
Sedula
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December 17, 2010
Subject: Dark Star
Subject: Dark Star
I can see why some people don't like this Dark Star, but that doesn't mean others don't. I like it because it is very different. Yes they are just noodling
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in "A" for most of it but I really like the electric piano and the laid back, sleepy energy. But it is also obvious why some people don't like it...to each his own.
Reviewer:
lescaret
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December 17, 2010 (edited)
Subject: Joyful Intellectual Meanderings, The Ambiguity of Art
Subject: Joyful Intellectual Meanderings, The Ambiguity of Art
That people can differ so remarkably in responding to a piece of Art - whether a painting, a novel, or in this case a song - is a wonderful thing and not
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to be taken lightly. If our tastes were all the same, think how banal would be this miraculous life!
I refer to this tantalizingly opaque "Dark Star," this brooding, intellectual meander that is unlike any other "Dark Star" you'll probably ever hear. I don't know of another like it. This version is transcendent and essential, a weird tangential musical exploration on a cold December night in Cleveland, Ohio in 1973.
But deadheaddave in a review from June 2010 disparages this "Dark Star", suggests it's listless, flat, uninspired.
And quinn_76 calls it "aimless meandering".
Both are right! For themselves. While others, myself included, find something else in it, are powerfully taken by it, we slake our thirst for the Unknown by listening to it.
Is the Mona Lisa smiling in delight or smiling in rueful resignation? Or is she smirking? Does she possess knowledge of the psychedelic self? Is David Foster Wallace's "Infinite Jest" a masterpiece, his generation's "Ulysses"? Or a bloated, self-indulgent tome full of run-on sentences? Is Allen Ginsberg's "Howl" a profane yawp of gibberish? Or the foundational poetic text for the second half of the 20th century?
To make vast pronouncements of pedantic certainty is to miss the point of the Dead and of Art itself.
Or as Whitman said - "Do I contradict myself? Very well then, I contradict myself. I contain multitudes."
I refer to this tantalizingly opaque "Dark Star," this brooding, intellectual meander that is unlike any other "Dark Star" you'll probably ever hear. I don't know of another like it. This version is transcendent and essential, a weird tangential musical exploration on a cold December night in Cleveland, Ohio in 1973.
But deadheaddave in a review from June 2010 disparages this "Dark Star", suggests it's listless, flat, uninspired.
And quinn_76 calls it "aimless meandering".
Both are right! For themselves. While others, myself included, find something else in it, are powerfully taken by it, we slake our thirst for the Unknown by listening to it.
Is the Mona Lisa smiling in delight or smiling in rueful resignation? Or is she smirking? Does she possess knowledge of the psychedelic self? Is David Foster Wallace's "Infinite Jest" a masterpiece, his generation's "Ulysses"? Or a bloated, self-indulgent tome full of run-on sentences? Is Allen Ginsberg's "Howl" a profane yawp of gibberish? Or the foundational poetic text for the second half of the 20th century?
To make vast pronouncements of pedantic certainty is to miss the point of the Dead and of Art itself.
Or as Whitman said - "Do I contradict myself? Very well then, I contradict myself. I contain multitudes."
Reviewer:
chrisbihary
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December 6, 2010
Subject: I was ther...eeeeeeeee
Subject: I was ther...eeeeeeeee
Was a wonder cool evening in november in oHIo that evening.... The Dead played on and on so many oncores.... and was well into the night.... a concert
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of concerts......
Reviewer:
Bhawk
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November 9, 2010
Subject: Hey deadheaddave
Subject: Hey deadheaddave
I'd like to ask which version of HCS you think is better than this one?
Reviewer:
deadheaddave
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June 13, 2010
Subject: My Review
Subject: My Review
Played through a Yamaha receiver w/direct source into bi-wired Paradigm Monitor 9 speakers. Sorry boys and girls, but this ones a real sleeper, in fact
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to quote Jerry its a "clunker". Sound quality is superb with nice clear, rich bass. This show should be of interest to Phil Zone people (which I am generally not) as Phil is the only guy who showed up here with any enthusiam. Energy level throughout is generally uninspired, even by Dead standards. 1st set is well played with a decent "Loser" and an actually very nice "China Cat". Weir's playing in the transition is real nice in left channel. My overall problem is the band just doesn't feel like their into it. Jerry's new ax Wolf is a main highlight of this period of 73' and his fret work is nice in some spots. HCS has more of a bluesy/funky feel rather than trippy feel which I prefer. This is not one of the best HCS, but its good. Phil bombs abound in this show which, for me, is just about the only real highlight here. I know I'm going to take some heat for this, but honestly this is one of the worst "Dark Stars" I have personally ever heard, and I have heard more than a few. The first 20 minutes are not really the song at all but just some space noodling. Mercifully Jer drops in the first verse without much fanfare, and then it continues to go nowhere for another 20 some minutes w/ Phil intermittenly assaulting our ears (and my woofers) w/ bass sustain and feedback. This is generally what musicians do when nothing else is really happening musically. Bottom line this is basically a great band going through the motions. Don't get me all wrong this is solid on some basic levels. However, if your looking for greatness in fall 73' this is not it. Thanks to Charlie Miller and Archives.
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gphishmon
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December 29, 2009
Subject: Branes for your brains
Subject: Branes for your brains
This Dark Star opens the doors to dimensions that are folded into the three dimensions we know of, whole universes compacted into a space a billion times
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smaller than a proton. (Google "string theory") There are jazzy segments, there's deep space, there's Phil assaulting the audience with one barrage after another (post-verse), there's a segment where they seem to be moving towards The Other One, and there are segments of heartrending beauty.
Some time ago I reviewed a Dark Star that I thought was this one with a review entitled "More not necessarily better." I don't see my review here now or for any other copy of this show. Also, I don't understand how I could have been writing about this show, since I wrote something to the effect that Dark Star meandered for a long time before the verse and then dissolved into a mess during which they were barely playing for minutes at a time. That couldn't be further from the truth here. They keep up the intensity for the full 43 min, and in fact they could have gone longer. The one thing I did notice is that Weir either is missing entirely from Dark Star or is mixed so low as to be inaudible. His guitar reappears at the beginning of Eyes, but disappears again, although his singing is loud and clear.
China>Rider is the highlight of a rather blase first set, while HCS is an all-star version, giving a taste of what is to come. Eyes is fine, but nothing special for that period. On the strength of the Dark Star, however, this has to get 5 stars.
Some time ago I reviewed a Dark Star that I thought was this one with a review entitled "More not necessarily better." I don't see my review here now or for any other copy of this show. Also, I don't understand how I could have been writing about this show, since I wrote something to the effect that Dark Star meandered for a long time before the verse and then dissolved into a mess during which they were barely playing for minutes at a time. That couldn't be further from the truth here. They keep up the intensity for the full 43 min, and in fact they could have gone longer. The one thing I did notice is that Weir either is missing entirely from Dark Star or is mixed so low as to be inaudible. His guitar reappears at the beginning of Eyes, but disappears again, although his singing is loud and clear.
China>Rider is the highlight of a rather blase first set, while HCS is an all-star version, giving a taste of what is to come. Eyes is fine, but nothing special for that period. On the strength of the Dark Star, however, this has to get 5 stars.
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April 12, 2009 (edited)
Subject: Dark Star, Perfected
Subject: Dark Star, Perfected
This is top shelf DS. My favorite of them all.
Phil and Keith ... damn
and the best HCS too.
Phil and Keith ... damn
and the best HCS too.
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April 11, 2009 (edited)
Subject: but seriously
Subject: but seriously
this dark star becomes as it is named, a black hole in time and space drawing everything into it and spitting it out into......??? who knows where. not
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us obviously.
also kieth is freaking killing it with the organ on this one.
every limb in tandem. every stroke executed in the group mind. so, so, so very sweet.
the grateful goddamned dead boys and girls.
the grateful goddamned dead.
also kieth is freaking killing it with the organ on this one.
every limb in tandem. every stroke executed in the group mind. so, so, so very sweet.
the grateful goddamned dead boys and girls.
the grateful goddamned dead.
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March 31, 2009 (edited)
Subject: Top 5 of the year!
Subject: Top 5 of the year!
This, along with 11/11, 11/17 and 12/2, are imo the best shows of the year, as I prefer late'73 to earlier '73. When I think of "The Honey Year," I think
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of late '73, and even the late February Winterland shows from the following year. The Dead's sound was just amazing, and this show represents that sound perfectly. The whole show is killer. It has something for everybody, including one of the last truly great Dark Stars, at least of the 70's. Also, the China Cat>Rider is not to be missed, under any circumstances.
I believe the Dead peaked in Nov. and Dec. of '73, and they peaked again in May and June of '77(Gee, could it be because Donna was absent for a majority of Nov/Dec '73, and actually sounded good in '77? Not really. Actually I'm a fan of hers, but it just seems like ripping Donna is the cool thing to do here.). You can't really go wrong with any show from these months, and this show is a perfect example of why.
I believe the Dead peaked in Nov. and Dec. of '73, and they peaked again in May and June of '77(Gee, could it be because Donna was absent for a majority of Nov/Dec '73, and actually sounded good in '77? Not really. Actually I'm a fan of hers, but it just seems like ripping Donna is the cool thing to do here.). You can't really go wrong with any show from these months, and this show is a perfect example of why.
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March 20, 2009
Subject: Just the Boys!
Subject: Just the Boys!
Seems like I was one of the few un-initiated to this show, but somehow it did get under my radar. In any event, I'm a '77 guy by nature, and often less
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impressed with '73 than most, so I hope my 5-star rating for this gem means that much more.
To me, it's NOT about the DarkStar, which I think is fantastic and mellow and spacey for about half the length of its 45 minute running time before it devolves into the usual '73 nonsensical meandering noise, but the real gorgeous stuff is to be found in nearly every other song, with the addition of the subtraction of Donna--missing while delivering/caring for child. (BTW: I don't always hate on Donna...it's just nice to hear a show or 2 w/out her sometimes in the way out-of-tune harmonizing).
So the thing to really watch out for here is the hands-down best-ever jazz-driven epic performance of HERE COMES SUNSHINE, made even better by Jerry really belting out the lyrics, and yes, one of the all-time great CHINA>RIDER's you'll ever hear. Flawless transition into the MLB jam. There's also a dazzling EYES and a simply beautiful rendition of ROW JIMMY that stands with some of the best the band ever played.
This show is now getting a ton of play and I'm still finding new reasons to love it every time. Just an amazing performance--for any year!
To me, it's NOT about the DarkStar, which I think is fantastic and mellow and spacey for about half the length of its 45 minute running time before it devolves into the usual '73 nonsensical meandering noise, but the real gorgeous stuff is to be found in nearly every other song, with the addition of the subtraction of Donna--missing while delivering/caring for child. (BTW: I don't always hate on Donna...it's just nice to hear a show or 2 w/out her sometimes in the way out-of-tune harmonizing).
So the thing to really watch out for here is the hands-down best-ever jazz-driven epic performance of HERE COMES SUNSHINE, made even better by Jerry really belting out the lyrics, and yes, one of the all-time great CHINA>RIDER's you'll ever hear. Flawless transition into the MLB jam. There's also a dazzling EYES and a simply beautiful rendition of ROW JIMMY that stands with some of the best the band ever played.
This show is now getting a ton of play and I'm still finding new reasons to love it every time. Just an amazing performance--for any year!
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magicastles
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March 19, 2009
Subject: feeling grateful
Subject: feeling grateful
...so I was doing the dishes tonight and I was thinking, "I wonder what the longest known Dark Star is like" I 'googled' it and within minutes I'm thrown
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in the middle of (according to wikipedia) the longest uninterrupted Dark Star! Remember when you had to know somebody who knew somebody who knew somebody???..things are great for us now,no?
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oh_uh_um_ah
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March 13, 2009
Subject: ... The GRATEFUL DEAD "Live On Stage" December 6, 1973, at the Public Hall, Cleveland, OH, U.S.A.
Subject: ... The GRATEFUL DEAD "Live On Stage" December 6, 1973, at the Public Hall, Cleveland, OH, U.S.A.
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I recommend adding this show to your 1973 GRATEFUL DEAD collection.
I also recommend buying the 1973 ... Box Set containing the "Complete" Winterland shows from November 9, 10, & 11. And Cinninati Gardens, Cleveland, December 4, 1973. It's a 9 disc Box Set. Here's the link:
http://www.dead.net/features/release-info/wait-over-winterland-1973-box-has-arrived
Eat, Drink, Be Merry and Listen to the GRATEFUL DEAD.
Thanks for the Love from 1973.
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I recommend adding this show to your 1973 GRATEFUL DEAD collection.
I also recommend buying the 1973 ... Box Set containing the "Complete" Winterland shows from November 9, 10, & 11. And Cinninati Gardens, Cleveland, December 4, 1973. It's a 9 disc Box Set. Here's the link:
http://www.dead.net/features/release-info/wait-over-winterland-1973-box-has-arrived
Eat, Drink, Be Merry and Listen to the GRATEFUL DEAD.
Thanks for the Love from 1973.
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March 11, 2009
Subject: wtf???
Subject: wtf???
for the love of all that is good and holy why are there splices between seamless jams in china rider and dark star etc.....WTF????
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snow_and_rain
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February 27, 2009
Subject: Threre are few shows as good as this one
Subject: Threre are few shows as good as this one
Absolutely outstanding. One of my favorites for sure. All-time great versions of HCS, China->Rider, Dark Star (43 mins!)->Eyes. Hell yeah! The sexiest
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Here Comes Sunshine you will ever lay ears on. Guaranteed.
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clementinescaboose
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February 27, 2009 (edited)
Subject: Here Comes Sunshine
Subject: Here Comes Sunshine
just felt i needed to add something to an earlier review: it's been said already, but i can't stress enough how much you HAVE to hear this HERE COMES SUNSHINE.
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this is one of the most passionate and astonishing performances i've ever heard from JJG. starting around 8:06 to 8:59 has at times nearly brought me to tears. i know i sound like i'm overselling this, but this is the best version of this song EVER. there is a reason 1973 is so highly regarded.
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CaptainTrips10
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October 28, 2005
Subject: China Rider
Subject: China Rider
Oh me oh my what a version we have here. I was actually on the fence about this entire show until I heard China Cat. This show cooks. I'm not a bit fan
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of Keith, but if you like Keith this show is for you. Get this now.
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rollandfin
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October 4, 2005
Subject: thanks very much
Subject: thanks very much
so here I am thinking I know all there is to know about winter 73, been around the block a few times, and then I stumble on this beauty, Do you know how
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good it feels to discover a gem like this right under your thumb?? well of course you do, since your reading this! This show/era is exciting simply cause it makes you wonder what if, and how bout this, and the possibilites are endless, Fraternal to 11-11-73, I don't know but it's a rich idea. Thank you Archive, GD.
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Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer
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September 28, 2005
Subject: In Sickness and .in ...
Subject: In Sickness and .in ...
This show is just SICK!! I actually had to play this Dark Star so load that I could feel every note (Which wasn't so hard to do - Phil is the God of Thunder)
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Sickness - Sickness and more Sickness!!
Just so tight as a band at this point, they play like fingers on the same hand - One Mind.
This may be the best Dark Star ever - I don't throw that out easily, I understand 9-21-72, 11-11-73, 8-27-72, 4-24-72, 10-26-89 and others have strong cases as well.
Just so tight as a band at this point, they play like fingers on the same hand - One Mind.
This may be the best Dark Star ever - I don't throw that out easily, I understand 9-21-72, 11-11-73, 8-27-72, 4-24-72, 10-26-89 and others have strong cases as well.
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doc drennan
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September 8, 2005 (edited)
Subject: dark..........help me!
Subject: dark..........help me!
killer73 best darkstar of that week of course
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whirlwind dreamer 65-95
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August 16, 2005
Subject: here comes a bad ass sunshine
Subject: here comes a bad ass sunshine
this sunshine is a scorcher d/l and smile 5 stars
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poor willie john
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August 12, 2005
Subject: :)
Subject: :)
Awesome. This is a standout even among the whole late '73 run that's terrific. Even Keith was thrilled Donna took some time off! The boys just cook.
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Lewis/Klitschko
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August 7, 2005
Subject: Typical late '73 deliciousness
Subject: Typical late '73 deliciousness
The best period for "Dark Stars." This show is a great example of how late '73 is superior to early and mid '73, which are fine, don't get me wrong.
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But late '73-'74 is my favorite slice out of the great '72-'74 pocket.
Reviewer:
67gp
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August 7, 2005 (edited)
Subject: No Donna
Subject: No Donna
I know Cap'n DD mentions this-but for anyone who cringes and reaches for the volume knob during Donna's off key howls & screeches-she is absent. (I've
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often wished for a Donna filter.)
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birdsgosouth
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July 5, 2005
Subject: Crashes, indeed
Subject: Crashes, indeed
This really is one of the greatest Dark Stars of all time, not only because it's 40 minutes long, but rarely do you hear one so out-there it sounds like
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the Dead are trying to split the universe in half. This is not overrated!!
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michaelcoughlin
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July 1, 2005
Subject: dark star!
Subject: dark star!
what a star baby!
top 3 ever!
top 3 ever!
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anotherdavid
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May 7, 2005
Subject: WRONG SHOW
Subject: WRONG SHOW
This is, in fact, the Cleveland Convention Center! The Dead did not play Public Hall in 1973...check deadbase. Where's the other 22 minutes to Dark Star???
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Also the SBD patch is of significant lesser quality... This copy does not have any verses in DS. Eyes is also chopped down to 5 min. I used to have an old SBD boot of this show and the DS filled one side!!! Please some one either correct me or this show because it was fantabulous...
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StringCheeseIncidentNumero1
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April 29, 2005
Subject: delveage
Subject: delveage
will delve ;)
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Alpine7784
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April 28, 2005
Subject: I love Phil!
Subject: I love Phil!
To hear Phil's atonal bomb-dropping on this contemplative Dark Star is pure enjoyment. I'd also like to give kudos to Keith. The guy clearly had some serious
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jazz chops, and it's really good to hear him playing something other than acoustic piano for a change. The second half of set II is excellent musical exploration. True stream-of-consciousness playing. A must-have.
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capn doubledose
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March 16, 2005
Subject: Around & Around
Subject: Around & Around
Listen to the crowd in the background this is a hot one.... Donna is missing from the band that night and they do not seem worse for the wear at all..
The ... seastonesque dark star is one of the longest I have heard but its the eyes and the sugar mag that rock this.
The ... seastonesque dark star is one of the longest I have heard but its the eyes and the sugar mag that rock this.
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headygrilledcheese
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February 15, 2005
Subject: Definitely nasty
Subject: Definitely nasty
This is a sick show yall. These guys are clearly feeling good tonight. Sound quality is A+ especially for 73. Jerrys distortion bites it during Loser but
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I dont care really, Im 22, Im graduating college in 3 months, and have no idea what im doing with my engineering degree, except for write GD reviews while I should be doing circuit analysis homework. Have a nice show.
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southernflavour
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December 13, 2004
Subject: get this
Subject: get this
easily one of the best. just when i couldn't get over how much this smokes, it just started smoking more and more and wouldn't stop. great sound too.
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phleshy
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October 2, 2004 (edited)
Subject: Dark Star!!!!
Subject: Dark Star!!!!
This is my favorite Dark Star of all time, folks. Yes, 11/2/69 may be more melodic and 5/11/72 may be more adventurous, but this version is so great that
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it nearly defies description. Put this with all-time great jams such as the 5/21/74 Playin' and the 2/13/70 DS>That's It>Lovelight segue.
P.s: What the hell is anotherdavid talking about? It's obvious that the guy hasn't even listened to this copy of the show. A 5 min Eyes? Look at the text file: Eyes lasts 13:57. Whatever hashish this guy is on, I don't want to know about it.
P.s: What the hell is anotherdavid talking about? It's obvious that the guy hasn't even listened to this copy of the show. A 5 min Eyes? Look at the text file: Eyes lasts 13:57. Whatever hashish this guy is on, I don't want to know about it.
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auggie
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August 4, 2004 (edited)
Subject: '74 Show with '73 Sound
Subject: '74 Show with '73 Sound
Transition show for my ears. You hear the sound and some jazzy aspects of '73 but it is played more like a '74 show. In particular the China>MLB Jam>Rider
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and the Sugar Mag. The Dark Star is one of the best from the Keith era. Quality is fantastic. I agree, would have been a better DP then the Hixon but it has been in circulation so maybe Dick wanted to introduce us to something new.
Edit 9/17/04> I have been downloading shows like crazy and this one cannot get out of my CD player. Absolute must get for Jerry jamming. Also Beware! 1) Phil is turned wayyyyy up at times. I have had speaker problems because of the ending to the China>Rider. 2) The AUD patch at the end of HC Sunshine is a huge buzz kill. A better sounding patch is needed because all SBDs I have heard have this cut.
Edit 9/17/04> I have been downloading shows like crazy and this one cannot get out of my CD player. Absolute must get for Jerry jamming. Also Beware! 1) Phil is turned wayyyyy up at times. I have had speaker problems because of the ending to the China>Rider. 2) The AUD patch at the end of HC Sunshine is a huge buzz kill. A better sounding patch is needed because all SBDs I have heard have this cut.
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dr. flashback
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July 7, 2004
Subject: Top Ten!
Subject: Top Ten!
Dick picked 12/19 as his very first release, and it's certainly a great show, particularly the Playin. But the Other One gets a little too dissonant for
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my tastes, plus it's a bit short. So, IMHO, I would have released THIS show instead.
What a stupendous show! If this doesn't light up your Xmas tree, check your pulse. I never get tired of this show! Excellent playing throughout. There is the fine, fine Dark Star>Eyes>China Doll played on 2/15 and 2/22, and the Dark Star>Stella Blue>Eyes from 10/30. But this Dark Star>Eyes>Stella tops them all for me. Phil is really on, and Jerry is really inspired. Get out this show during the holidaze with Egg Nog! BTW - this is the 3rd longest Star as listed. 5/11 is the longest, anyone know the 2nd longest? My notes say 11/19/72 Dark Star is the runner up. Anyone?
Dr. Flashback ;-)
What a stupendous show! If this doesn't light up your Xmas tree, check your pulse. I never get tired of this show! Excellent playing throughout. There is the fine, fine Dark Star>Eyes>China Doll played on 2/15 and 2/22, and the Dark Star>Stella Blue>Eyes from 10/30. But this Dark Star>Eyes>Stella tops them all for me. Phil is really on, and Jerry is really inspired. Get out this show during the holidaze with Egg Nog! BTW - this is the 3rd longest Star as listed. 5/11 is the longest, anyone know the 2nd longest? My notes say 11/19/72 Dark Star is the runner up. Anyone?
Dr. Flashback ;-)
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strawberry
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April 26, 2004
Subject: SMOKIN!!
Subject: SMOKIN!!
One of my favs from '73. Aud patches aren't too bad at all. Longest Sunshine ever, and in my opinion, the best ever. 3rd longest Darkstar, its good, but
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i like 2/15/73 darkstar better. Eyes>stella b jam is unreal and the encore sugar mag finishes it off like nobody's business. If you don't have it... its only 3 more discs.
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japhyryder
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April 24, 2004
Subject: regarding the dark star...
Subject: regarding the dark star...
...this is something really spacy, building for quite a time before taking form; this version, though not my favorite from `73, is certainly a must hear-it
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drips with that honey and keith warbles off the piano, onto his keyboards, and into the nether reaches with the rest of the boys.
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A.J.K.
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April 19, 2004
Subject: NOT the longest Dark Star
Subject: NOT the longest Dark Star
In regards to an earlier reviewers comment that this is the longest Dark Star - it's not. I quote from the text file:
"The Dark Star is the third longest ... known at 43:28"
F.Y.I.
"The Dark Star is the third longest ... known at 43:28"
F.Y.I.
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GJR
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April 13, 2004
Subject: This one's a gem.
Subject: This one's a gem.
From begining to end this one is a gem. The Dark Star here is probably my favorite from the 1973-74 period.
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doses
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April 11, 2004
Subject: also
Subject: also
the longest dark star; that says somethin'
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bobweirdork
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April 10, 2004
Subject: wow
Subject: wow
what a grate china>rider
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