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Dark Star > St. Stephen > The Eleven > Lovelight Dupree's Diamond Blues > Doin' That Rag > Cosmic Charlie, Alligator > drums > Alligator > Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) > Feedback > And We Bid You Good Night
Notes
Dark Star fades in (T.C. is high in the mix)
Brief light static around the middle of St. Stephen.
Small splice in Lovelight @ 16:27. And We Bid
You Good Night cuts @ 02:38.
(Extraction and.shn encoding by Seth Kaplan (Sdk022769@aol.com) via EAC and MKW. Accurate extraction and properly aligned sector boundaries verified via EAC and .shntool. Various digital and master reel flaws cleaned up via Cool Edit 2000)
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- 2004-04-23 15:35:57
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- gd69-01-25.sbd.kaplan.7923.sbeok.shnf
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- SBD > MR > C > DAT > CD > EAC > SHN
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- San Francisco, CA
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- Avalon Ballroom
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Reviewer:
Anthony Brakus
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August 18, 2023
Subject: TC vs. Vox Continental
Subject: TC vs. Vox Continental
To clarify. That organ that's cranked way up is TC playing a Vox Continental... He jumped and screamed until they finally got him a B3. He hated the Continental.
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He said that Garcia and Weir had guitar tone that was golden... The Vox sounded like cheap chrome in comparison. This concert is referenced to give a fine example of why he didn't like it. He would complain to Bear and Owsley would say, "a good craftsman never blames his tools." Which would chap TC off. He would point out that if Jerry complained about his tone Owsley would bend over backwards to address it. Anyway, he said after much agitation they got him the B3.
Most of the time when TC played Pigpen either played along on his B3, or focused on harmonica and vocals, sometimes even grabbing a conga drum.
Most of the time when TC played Pigpen either played along on his B3, or focused on harmonica and vocals, sometimes even grabbing a conga drum.
Reviewer:
whodat808
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May 21, 2016
Subject: do not stop on tracks
Subject: do not stop on tracks
the Caution on this sliced my mind into a trillion slivers of wow, this is the goddamn shit ,primal Dead blazing through sonic chaos,good sound quality
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as well....
Reviewer:
bluestones
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January 17, 2014
Subject: Would Love A Copy Of This Show
Subject: Would Love A Copy Of This Show
Anyone who has this show, I would appreciate a copy. I'll reward you with any 60's show of your choice.
Reviewer:
chris phillips
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August 18, 2013 (edited)
Subject: super
Subject: super
Dupree's is killer and The Eleven with any vocals would have been a contender.
Reviewer:
clementinescaboose
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November 26, 2011
Subject: Great show; terrible mix = -1
Subject: Great show; terrible mix = -1
Like others have addressed this show suffers from an awful mix - Garcia's guitar is way too low during Dark Star and at times the vocals are completely
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inaudible. But if you can get past this, you're in for a treat - here we have one of the better DS>SS>11>Lovelight combos of early '69, the Eleven and Lovelight being particularly awesome.
The mix straightens out quite a bit for the second set - where we get an explosive Alligator>Caution - probably the must-hear territory of this show. The Caution, while a bit on the short side, is easily a contender for one of the greatest ever - this hits like a million pound freight train! You'll being playing air guitar for sure.
The mix straightens out quite a bit for the second set - where we get an explosive Alligator>Caution - probably the must-hear territory of this show. The Caution, while a bit on the short side, is easily a contender for one of the greatest ever - this hits like a million pound freight train! You'll being playing air guitar for sure.
Reviewer:
ellisthemess
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September 28, 2011
Subject: the eleven
Subject: the eleven
my favorite next to dark star is the elevenand this one rips.
Reviewer:
biglouie358
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February 12, 2010
Subject: Great Show alright mix
Subject: Great Show alright mix
The night before is the night they lost bobby's sound. Tonight you can indeed hear it.
Reviewer:
SkyDawg
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June 26, 2008
Subject: First 16 Track Attempt
Subject: First 16 Track Attempt
These shows at the Avalon mark the bands first attempts at the new 16 track technology. It failed, as there is no sign of Weirs guitar in the mix and TC
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is turned up WAAAY too loud! The shows are great, but the mix went south. Fortunately the problem was fixed by the time the February/March Fillmore shows rolled around and gave us Live/Dead and the Fillmore West Concerts 1969 box set.
Historic, but flawed.
Historic, but flawed.
Reviewer:
oh_uh_um_ah
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April 13, 2008
Subject: 5 star show 3 star mix still a must have.
Subject: 5 star show 3 star mix still a must have.
First let me say there is three minutes and fifty one seconds of FEEDBACK performed live. That in and of it's self warrants the download, if you've ever
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been there you know what I am talking about.
About the rest:
I always liked Pigpen's and TC's organ sounds.
On The Eleven the organ mix is little out front, but hey, it's not bad. 1,2,3-2,2,3,-3,2,3,-1,2.
Sometimes the mixes are screwy, but the playing is not. This recording is a screwy mix recording (SMR) for the first 5 tracks.
Turn On Your Love Light's mix is bass, organ, guitar. Drums and vocals are mixed way in the back till about 1:42 into it. The Organ remains high in the mix. But Jerry's guitar sound is fantastic.
The mix on Dupree's Diamond Blues, Doin' that Rag,Cosmic Charlie is fine (normal)
ALLIGATOR! I love this song. The gongs at the end are cool. Pigpen's vocals are too far back in th mix for me, but the playin' is happening...Jerry and Bob's vocals are mixed so you can hear them fine. Billy and Mickey play their A$$ off. Alligator runnin' around my door....all you need...all you got to have...
Alligator>drums>Alligator>Caution>Feedback>And we bid you good night. WOW! Pigpen singing "And We Bid You Good Night" with the boys.
There is a loud hum early in And We Bid You Good Night, and is cut off before the end of the song.
5 star show, 3 star mix/recording = 4 stars?
Eat, drink be merry and listen to THE GRATEFUL DEAD.
Thanks for the love.
About the rest:
I always liked Pigpen's and TC's organ sounds.
On The Eleven the organ mix is little out front, but hey, it's not bad. 1,2,3-2,2,3,-3,2,3,-1,2.
Sometimes the mixes are screwy, but the playing is not. This recording is a screwy mix recording (SMR) for the first 5 tracks.
Turn On Your Love Light's mix is bass, organ, guitar. Drums and vocals are mixed way in the back till about 1:42 into it. The Organ remains high in the mix. But Jerry's guitar sound is fantastic.
The mix on Dupree's Diamond Blues, Doin' that Rag,Cosmic Charlie is fine (normal)
ALLIGATOR! I love this song. The gongs at the end are cool. Pigpen's vocals are too far back in th mix for me, but the playin' is happening...Jerry and Bob's vocals are mixed so you can hear them fine. Billy and Mickey play their A$$ off. Alligator runnin' around my door....all you need...all you got to have...
Alligator>drums>Alligator>Caution>Feedback>And we bid you good night. WOW! Pigpen singing "And We Bid You Good Night" with the boys.
There is a loud hum early in And We Bid You Good Night, and is cut off before the end of the song.
5 star show, 3 star mix/recording = 4 stars?
Eat, drink be merry and listen to THE GRATEFUL DEAD.
Thanks for the love.
Reviewer:
drlazybones
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July 25, 2006
Subject: good show...
Subject: good show...
I'm on Lovelight right now, and the high-mixed organ sounds the same to me. I don't think it's an over-dubbed track. I think Pig and TC are both playing
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organ, but TC is way up in the mix and Pig only plays from time to time... PS this show is quite nice. Lots of energy and fun fun fun. Good set list too, it's interesting to watch the song rotation change as you move from '66 to '69.
Reviewer:
Gwydion
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February 24, 2006
Subject: Pigpen?
Subject: Pigpen?
what did pigpen really play when T.C was behind the keys too? you only hear one keyboard...so should i think pigpen only play some percussion with his
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congas. I need an answer about pigpen's role when T.C was there.
Reviewer:
yossarian084
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February 6, 2006
Subject: Tracks
Subject: Tracks
Definitely sounds like an added track on the first part of DS. Credible jamming, but the synth sound is not like other shows from this era. But then
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I could be wrong as the keys at the end seem less fake.
We're picking nits here but its fun.....
We're picking nits here but its fun.....
Reviewer:
Japettle
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May 7, 2005
Subject: The Eleven
Subject: The Eleven
This version of the Eleven is pretty sick. I know the Dead has said that it was difficult to play live but I think it would have down well to have made
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a comeback at some point. The jamming is just furious and intense. It reminds me a lot of some of the sick ABB Mountain Jams with Duane. This version is nothing but stellar and you cant go wrong with DS>Stephen>Tell>11>Lovelight and so on .. check it out.
There are sound issues here. Seems like the vocals are barely present until sometime in Lovelight when they get fixed. As far as the keyboard sound goes .. Im assuming thats Constanten on keys, maybe making some interesting sounds. Its also possible that, again, the mix is screwy and there might be another version going around with a better mix.
There are sound issues here. Seems like the vocals are barely present until sometime in Lovelight when they get fixed. As far as the keyboard sound goes .. Im assuming thats Constanten on keys, maybe making some interesting sounds. Its also possible that, again, the mix is screwy and there might be another version going around with a better mix.
Reviewer:
spleenboy
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March 13, 2005
Subject: Agreed, on a few points
Subject: Agreed, on a few points
as previous reviewers noted, there is some strange overlay of guitar-like keyboardy-synthy track (on Dark Star mainly as i recall). it is not an easy
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call; it could possibly be a weird miking issue, or some unusual occurence at a show (the Boys did a lot of social gigs, "everyone get on the stage and bang on something!".
Or, some musician taping themself, doing a pretty good job of jamming with the Dead.
But that was only on like one tune, so that "distraction" isn't there afterward.
That aside, this show is fuckin' ....wow. total melt-down, very innovative, exploratory. new takes on all the Dream Team of Dead tunes.
Or, some musician taping themself, doing a pretty good job of jamming with the Dead.
But that was only on like one tune, so that "distraction" isn't there afterward.
That aside, this show is fuckin' ....wow. total melt-down, very innovative, exploratory. new takes on all the Dream Team of Dead tunes.
Reviewer:
EastVillage_NYC
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December 3, 2004
Subject: Hmmmm...keyboard?
Subject: Hmmmm...keyboard?
This was the first bootleg I ever came across and I don't remember there being any keyboard on it like this. Ever.
I think someone may have added a track.
Any ... thoughts? Am I completely off base?
However, this concert is, to me, one of the finest ever when the Dead were less of an institution than they were an innovative, compelling, and absolutely unique musical experience. Their art shines in this concert like in few others, to this degree.
I think someone may have added a track.
Any ... thoughts? Am I completely off base?
However, this concert is, to me, one of the finest ever when the Dead were less of an institution than they were an innovative, compelling, and absolutely unique musical experience. Their art shines in this concert like in few others, to this degree.
Reviewer:
dirty jev-o
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September 28, 2004 (edited)
Subject: rough sound at first
Subject: rough sound at first
weird {bad} sound here.....hmm....more later
not bad--but that organ is distorted and cannot be TC!
it may be a hammond organ or the continental...
'yucky'
the ... band sounds distant and there is an unusual room sound as far as the lead guitar goes---
not bad--but that organ is distorted and cannot be TC!
it may be a hammond organ or the continental...
'yucky'
the ... band sounds distant and there is an unusual room sound as far as the lead guitar goes---
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