Grateful Dead Live at The Spectrum on 1993-09-13
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Hell In A Bucket, Jack A Roe, The Same Thing, Stagger Lee, Black Throated Wind, Dire Wolf, Let It Grow Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain-> Playin' In The Band-> Dark Star-> Terrapin Station-> Drums-> Jam*-> Easy Answers-> The Days Between-> Good Lovin', E: I Fought The Law
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SBD> DAT> CM> DAT> CDR; Seeded to Etree by T. Wiley
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- 2004-05-13 13:59:47
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- gd93-09-13.sbd.miller-wiley.12096.sbeok.shnf
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- Philadelphia, PA
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- 13789
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- The Spectrum
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Reviewer:
GratefulDan94043
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December 14, 2018
Subject: Best Days Between
Subject: Best Days Between
Was there for the full run before heading up to MSG. Great fall tour, this show has the best Days Between I've heard.
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NJFunkNetwork
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May 17, 2018
Subject: This was the end for me
Subject: This was the end for me
Scarlet>Fire>Playin>Dark Star>Terrapin that never rose above "meh, ok" after the previous night which was a start to finish snoozefest and
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by far the worst Dead show I ever went to, and I decided this was it for me. The next night was a celebration of the years I spent with the Dead and a final goodbye where I cried as I left, and then that was it. Never went back, and listening to 94-95 recordings, made the right decision.
This show doesn't rise to the level of its setlist.
This show doesn't rise to the level of its setlist.
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mr.dudeman76
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January 13, 2018
Subject: crisp
Subject: crisp
Great phillly show,2nd set scarlet fire hot!!!philly love
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zzzboxofrainzzz
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July 1, 2016 (edited)
Subject: For late 1993......
Subject: For late 1993......
I hate starting off with "For 1993....". Or "For a 95 show....". But after listening to this one on Sirius today, the only way to sell myself on the show
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is to say that "For a 1993 show, they boys were on....". Kills me to say this, but by the end of 1993, a good show for Jerry was a mere shadow of his former self. Yes, he stepped it up on Fire On the Mountain. And Dark Star, even if short and a bit laid back rather than searing with intensity, is a treat. But between the "thin, twangy, almost acoustic" sound he was generating with the MIDI, and the jams stopping a step or two below where they went in the 70's and early 80's, I cannot call this one for the ages. Rather, a very good show for the time. Which means a country mile better than any other band out there at the time. And a band I tried to catch whenever humanly possible in the hope of catching a glimpse of their former magic. The magic that was there more often than not during the early years of my "voyages" to see the band [started in '74].
Anyway, I'm calling this a three star show. Take away the Easy Answers and I might go 3&1/2. Played well. Other than Dark Star, a very familiar song selection. Just doesn't have the intensity and "thick sound" to go higher than three when rating as a show in a vacuum rather than a show performed in late 1993.
Looking forward to Dead & Company next week. Will never be the same, but grateful we can keep going furthur :-)
Anyway, I'm calling this a three star show. Take away the Easy Answers and I might go 3&1/2. Played well. Other than Dark Star, a very familiar song selection. Just doesn't have the intensity and "thick sound" to go higher than three when rating as a show in a vacuum rather than a show performed in late 1993.
Looking forward to Dead & Company next week. Will never be the same, but grateful we can keep going furthur :-)
Reviewer:
CaliSasquache
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September 14, 2013
Subject: Good show
Subject: Good show
The boys brought it to town like only the Dead could. when everyone else digs the show, and you're the only one who gives this show one star guess what?
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you're an idiot. Theres at least one on every block. Dime a dozen. Sorry just being honest with you. Have a glass of shut the hell up. I'm with everyone else, this is good stuff! You definately missed something!
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boscomorgan
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August 28, 2011
Subject: Did i miss something?
Subject: Did i miss something?
After reading most of the reviews for this show and how everyone thought that this was a show ""for the ages"" and mant other descriptions. I listened
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again and it was just as i thought this was soooo weak.Did the people who thought it was so good go to their first show this night. Dark star>terrapin was a 3 minute dark star>7 minute terrapin. I am not gonna drag this out but this was just like all of the other vince welnick shows pretty freaking pathetic. sorry folks i gotta be honest.
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fudoki
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April 23, 2011
Subject: Sound IS brighter - but still Miller...
Subject: Sound IS brighter - but still Miller...
Check the lineage - it's still from Charlie...
Two comments: Listened to this show because of the reviews, especially about the second set; but the first ... set is RED HOT too. Whenever Jerry pulled out the "Lightning Bolt" guitar and deliberately planned to play semi-acoustic - stand by for music!
Second, the big problem with Easy Answers is that it uses the same chord progressing on the chorus as VOTC, and the Band tends to slip into the same riffs... Yes, it's a problem. OTOH, I really like Easy Answers, and on this recording you can tell that Bobby likes it too.
Both Jerry and Bobby were in rare form, both vocally and instrumentally. From the first song it was clear that this was going to be a concert to remember. Wish I had been able to be there...
Speaking of wishes, I wish there was a good MTX of this show - the audience was in rare form - and I'm pretty sure I know why, considering the date... ;)
Two comments: Listened to this show because of the reviews, especially about the second set; but the first ... set is RED HOT too. Whenever Jerry pulled out the "Lightning Bolt" guitar and deliberately planned to play semi-acoustic - stand by for music!
Second, the big problem with Easy Answers is that it uses the same chord progressing on the chorus as VOTC, and the Band tends to slip into the same riffs... Yes, it's a problem. OTOH, I really like Easy Answers, and on this recording you can tell that Bobby likes it too.
Both Jerry and Bobby were in rare form, both vocally and instrumentally. From the first song it was clear that this was going to be a concert to remember. Wish I had been able to be there...
Speaking of wishes, I wish there was a good MTX of this show - the audience was in rare form - and I'm pretty sure I know why, considering the date... ;)
Reviewer:
smelt
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April 4, 2010
Subject: mind blowing 2nd set...
Subject: mind blowing 2nd set...
Im sorry but this second set was incredible. Out of space was a letdown, but up until drums was one of the best sets I ever saw. HOTTEST Fire ever...flawless!!
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Dark Star > Terrapin, I mean does it get any better than that?!?!
I also remember the grim reaper guy with the sign. This was the apex of 93 in my humble opinion.
I also remember the grim reaper guy with the sign. This was the apex of 93 in my humble opinion.
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skullsnroses
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September 14, 2009 (edited)
Subject: a Monday 5
Subject: a Monday 5
I liked it, but not a 5s worth. The encore was weak. That easy answers was like a kick in Jerry's balls. Just wasn't the same after that. I don't know
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a nothin, Im just listenin to the band. I wonder though if they ever thought about shortening the shows as they got longer. Might have lasted longer that way.
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cb18201
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May 14, 2009 (edited)
Subject: ?
Subject: ?
i dont know why but i think this source sounds better than the miller source for some reason. its sounds brighter. i found this to be the best one out
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of all three on here actually. either way this show is amazing.
also on this source the "drums" and "jam" tracks are switched for some reason. the labels are in the correct setlist order with "drums" coming before "jam" but the track that is really "drums" is labeled as "jam" and vice versa.
also on this source the "drums" and "jam" tracks are switched for some reason. the labels are in the correct setlist order with "drums" coming before "jam" but the track that is really "drums" is labeled as "jam" and vice versa.
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jasonavolk
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February 20, 2009 (edited)
Subject: My first and only
Subject: My first and only
Ah, it gives me goosebumps...my first and only show (with Jerry)when i was 14. I'd loved the dead's music for years before this (thanks to the good tastes
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of my older brother), but of course the show blew my mind. What an experience - in the lot, a friend and i stopped to down a few brews. Our other friends went in, not wanting to wait. Unfortunately, the guy i was with's wallet, with ticket inside, was in one of the OTHER friends pocket. BUMMER! After a long and fruitless search in the lot, shouting our bro's name, we gave up. I gave him almost all my cash ($4!) so he could catch the train home. I distinctly remember a guy dressed as the grim reaper, with a sign saying "There hasn't been a Dark Star in Philly in 21 years". I went inside, having missed a few tunes, and things have never been the same... A tribe of dreddies sitting in front of me got me stoned to the gills, adding to the powerful contact high of the whole scene. The show was incredible. Etched in my mind forever. All my favorite tunes, and dark star to boot. Afterwards, not knowing where to find my ride home, I went up to a nitrous tank with my last dollar, and was given the biggest balloon i've ever seen. On my last gasp of gas, I turned my head to see my friends climbing into the car in the distance. serendipity, but i was sad to have to leave...I felt like running away from home. 15 years later, I'm looking forward to the Spectrum shows on 5/1, 5/2. Hopefully, i'll feel like a 14 year old again!
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St. Vitus
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October 6, 2008
Subject: this show
Subject: this show
This show is so good it's ridiculous. The guitar sound is insanely good, and the set list - :drool:
Reviewer:
letitshine
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December 11, 2007
Subject: Don't let the date fool you.
Subject: Don't let the date fool you.
I am pretty indefferent to the first set of this show. There aren't any real turkeys, but nothing really extraordinary either. As a look at the setlist
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would seem to indicate, it is the second set that will blow your mind. Short-but-sweet renditions of some of the band's most classic songs and then a Terrapin for the ages... followed by some of the more decent "new" songs (just to remind you that this isn't from March 1990 or anything, in case you forgot) after a rousing Drums/Space. What more could you want from a 1993 show? I'm not all that fammiliar with Vince-era stuff, mostly because the setlists and actual playing were much better in previous eras, but this just might be one of the best shows in my collection.
Definately recommended, just for the amazing second set. This general time period has a lot of amazing-looking setlists that simply aren't matched by the actual playing, but here, the band definately steps up to the plate. I would be very happy if this were officially released.
Definately recommended, just for the amazing second set. This general time period has a lot of amazing-looking setlists that simply aren't matched by the actual playing, but here, the band definately steps up to the plate. I would be very happy if this were officially released.
Reviewer:
Darrylizer
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November 8, 2007 (edited)
Subject: Nice show from '93
Subject: Nice show from '93
Really good show, very enjoyable. Jerry's guitar almost sounds acoustic for much of this show (other shows in '93 too) and there's a very nice delicacy
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to it in that every note is clear. Nice midi work on space or jam and a good drums. Everybody seems to be dialed in for this show tho Phil could be a bit louder for my tastes. Good Terrapin and Playing as well and a surprise Dark Star that is short but sweet. I even liked Easy Answers and Days Between and I know I'm probably in the minority in that opinion at least among my Deadhead friends. Weirdly though the set seems out of sequence: jam should happen before drums I believe? In any case a very nice show from late in the game. I haven't heard that many shows from '93 and I have to say I'm finding some really good ones such as Boston Garden from 9/24. Time tripping on the Archive is a hell of a lot of fun.
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shermski
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September 14, 2007
Subject: excellent
Subject: excellent
show for 93!!
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grateful kev
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October 26, 2006
Subject: grateful kev
Subject: grateful kev
spectrum shows were always really good especially 1985-1990
this show was slow getting started but the second set was
pretty good above average show ... for 1993
this show was slow getting started but the second set was
pretty good above average show ... for 1993
Reviewer:
capn doubledose
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March 9, 2006 (edited)
Subject: Yeech - Sorry guys with respect to those that were there+
Subject: Yeech - Sorry guys with respect to those that were there+
Sorry after being blessed with so many great shows this reminds me of of the end of the line for the buys and it makes me sad. Having just seen some rockin
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Phil shows here in New York this stuff pales by comparison.
Reviewer:
Dead Forever
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January 24, 2006
Subject: nice
Subject: nice
pre-drums section as good as it gets for '93. check it out if you dig this era.
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Sugarray
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December 4, 2005
Subject: My 1st Show
Subject: My 1st Show
I have no illusions about being the only reviewer to have the good fortune to be in attendance this Spec-tacular night. I remember seeing the same sign
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Jason recounts; regarding so many years, months, days, min.s since the last Philly Dark Star. I spent a very cold miserable night sleeping out for tickets (Kennett Sq.), and had missed the last tour altogether, so I was quite ready for this night. I sat way up in the nosebleed section behind the stage (Phil Zone). This gave me the rare opportunity to see the band "warm up". Through a black cloth draped over the stage, I saw a glowing cherry go around n' round, making six stops along the way. I have a freind who claims to have met Jerry that night.
The music speaks for itself so I don't feel it necessary to comment much on the setlist. I do, however, dispute that the 1st set was bland. This was my first (long awaited) show so I was enthralled. The second set changed my entire existence! It was almost a week later when I finally landed. Our seats pretty well sucked both for veiw and acoustics, but looking back, I wouldn't have been anywhere else on the planet that night.
The music speaks for itself so I don't feel it necessary to comment much on the setlist. I do, however, dispute that the 1st set was bland. This was my first (long awaited) show so I was enthralled. The second set changed my entire existence! It was almost a week later when I finally landed. Our seats pretty well sucked both for veiw and acoustics, but looking back, I wouldn't have been anywhere else on the planet that night.
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Jason from Pennsyltucky
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October 4, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Chills
Subject: Chills
Sound quality is good. The tubular bells jam by Vince was in the space segment, although he did noodle with it just before the drumz. The show is in the
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correct order if you are streaming it as I just did. The jam in scarlet sends chills down my spine. I liked the twangy sound of the "lightning bolt" in the fall 93 run. If my memory serves me, Jerry broke it out at the Autzen stadium run in august. The easy answers out of space really turned me off along with the IFTL encore. Other than that, this was one of the best shows of the fall run. Dark Star is very short. I remember some head in the lot with a large sign that counted the days/years and shows since the last Philly Dark Star in 1973.(which is also a good show) The first set is respectable and contains the first of three Dire Wolves of this tour. The Terrapin is very nice, but the one in Boston on the 29th has a better jam the goes off the hook.(That show shuold not be overlooked. The boys were like a swiss watch that night.)All in all, this is one of the better shows of the 90's. The set list is great and the playing holds up throughout. Definetly worth the DL. BTW, the spectrum is still there and is still known as the rectum. The worst place to meet your friends is still the rocky statue. Recently at a Jimmy Buffet show Rocky was wearing a grass skirt and a Lei.
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jackospax
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September 24, 2005
Subject: A beauty
Subject: A beauty
I traded for a tape of the second set at a Rainbow gathering in Missouri some ten years ago and its been a favorite since... I love the tone of Jerry's
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guitar in this period- had he started using 'Lightning Bolt' yet?
Solid playing throughout and great setlist! Thank you Archive!!
Solid playing throughout and great setlist! Thank you Archive!!
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Briva
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May 11, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Harmonic Convergence
Subject: Harmonic Convergence
I was in the 6th row Jerry side for this one - it was one of those religious experiences - you know - saw God, levitated, lots of telepathic communica
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Scarlet>Fire>Playin>Dark Star>Terrpain
Dreams do come true
Scarlet>Fire>Playin>Dark Star>Terrpain
Dreams do come true
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fireonshakedownstreet
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April 27, 2005
Subject: HUGE!!
Subject: HUGE!!
The pre-drums just grabs you by the throat and doesnt let go. The Fire has some breathtaking runs by Jerry, very tight compact playing. Just on fire. The
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Playin' isnt the longest version, but it gets deep and they are just clicking on all cylinders. Dark Star into Terrapin is gold. The Terrapin is a monster with big jam at the end, that cuts off on my FM tape. Im still a newbie, but Im learning fast. There were some excellent shows after Brent.
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Geoffsky
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April 20, 2005
Subject: Classic "Shooda been there"
Subject: Classic "Shooda been there"
I was at the night before and the night after and although I had no complaints with the shows I saw, all I heard about was the night I missed. Philly boy
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myself I had the Spectrum as my playground for many a show. Glad I finally heard this and have to agree with all the 5 stars. Pierre was right.
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lobster12
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April 6, 2005
Subject: second set
Subject: second set
i chose this one to listen to based on the second set. First set is nothing really, but man what a second set. Not to sound like a broken record but for
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those of you lucky enough to be there, how bummed were you when the boys half assed a 2min IFTL encore after all this inspired jamming?
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budfox
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March 21, 2005
Subject: As Good As It Looks?
Subject: As Good As It Looks?
They definetly came out swinging with a high energy Hell In A Bucket. Bobbys voice was back in true form with his falsetto ending that becuase of throat
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pollops had been lacking for most of the year. Nice Jack-A-Roe Dire Wolf and Stagger Lee.Although I liked the clean tone of Jerrys new guitar I felt it could also be a handicap. It just seemed it dint't have the juice to really go into overdrive. Its especially apparent during segments of Let It Grow. Predrums sequence is well executed with solid playing by all. Great extened jam into the Drums.
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mattylwn
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February 11, 2005
Subject: i was there too
Subject: i was there too
i was too high to remember much, but this sounds very tight. A great live show to play--probably will end up in dicks picks one day
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donnaruinedthe70s
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February 11, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Vince and the chills in the same sentence? Huh?
Subject: Vince and the chills in the same sentence? Huh?
I got chills on a number of occasions from listening to this second set. Yes, the Scarlet-Fire-Playin-Dark Star-Terrapin was not only some of the tightest
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playing the band offered during this time period, BUT, and this is a big BUT, Vince actually managed to give me the chills with his wordless ballad that he played coming out of terrapin-*its actually at the beginning of the Drumz file*-the band gets kind of quiet around him, and lets him go--its nothing too fancy, but nice, touching even. Vince makes a nice contribution here. Give it a listen. Jerry and Bob chip in, too, toward the end before Drumz kicks in. Wow did they LOVE to play the Spectrum.
Its one thing to have a nice looking setlist its another when they actually deliver on one. 5 stars.
Its one thing to have a nice looking setlist its another when they actually deliver on one. 5 stars.
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sid weiss
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August 28, 2004
Subject: great sound quality levels are great
Subject: great sound quality levels are great
could be better levels...but it is ok ..worth a download
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HQ SBDS
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July 18, 2004
Subject: Garcia 93 guitar
Subject: Garcia 93 guitar
I don't know what it is about Garcia's guitar work during this tour, but it is forward and full of twang like no other year. This show is a perfect example.
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Get this for the sound quality it is one of the best i've DL so far.
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TERRAPINCANE
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July 6, 2004 (edited)
Subject: '93 goodness
Subject: '93 goodness
Scarlet>Fire>Playin>Dark Star>Terrapin....
it's as magical as it looks, well-played, smooth transitions, and just plain friggin awesome!!!!!!
funny ... no one's mentioned anything other than this segue....Easy Answers>Days Between just yanks the chain on this second set....
first set is good, but nothing special...
in reality, the only part worth downloading is the segue to start the second set.
it's as magical as it looks, well-played, smooth transitions, and just plain friggin awesome!!!!!!
funny ... no one's mentioned anything other than this segue....Easy Answers>Days Between just yanks the chain on this second set....
first set is good, but nothing special...
in reality, the only part worth downloading is the segue to start the second set.
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ripplemaster
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June 30, 2004
Subject: i was there
Subject: i was there
this was the second show that I attended as a head. nobody could believe when we walked out of the spectrum that we had just seen a scarlet>fire&g
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t;playin>darkstar>terrapin.
Need I say more. An unbelievable second set with unbelievable memories
Need I say more. An unbelievable second set with unbelievable memories
Reviewer:
staggerlee3269
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May 20, 2004 (edited)
Subject: Great Show!! Tracks r just out of order.
Subject: Great Show!! Tracks r just out of order.
I was here & it was one of my favorite shows in the 90's. As for this show not being right, it's just out of order...it should be like this after Terrapin.
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gd93-09-13d2t05 should be followed by gd93-09-13d3t01 then gd93-09-13d2t06 then gd93-09-13d3t02.
Scott Hanley
Honolulu, Hi.
Scott Hanley
Honolulu, Hi.
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jeffsetz
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May 19, 2004
Subject: Killer show w/download flaw
Subject: Killer show w/download flaw
The jam out of Terrapin Station hints at the Tubular Bells theme and is pieced together with a more defined Tubular Bells post drums jam. This is from
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David Gan's GD Hour source. Hopefully, someone will upload a correct 2nd set from this fabulous show.
Warts and all, this is the best show from '93.
Warts and all, this is the best show from '93.
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morningdew77
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May 17, 2004
Subject: great show, but....
Subject: great show, but....
my favorite post '85 show (and i'm not used to lightly throwing out accolades), but i believe the tracks somehow weasled their way out of order....the
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"tubular" jam should occur after space, not after terrapin...if i'm wrong, then the drummers et al performed a disappearing act in the sixteenth minute of terrapin.
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norvarchivist
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May 15, 2004
Subject: What a friggin' show!!!!
Subject: What a friggin' show!!!!
The first night in Philly was a warm up....walking into the Spectrum night 2, you could feel it in the air......An amazing vibe, and a killer show! Well
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worth your time to download
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